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Strider
01-07-2004, 11:20 AM
hmm, on seconds thoughts it looks like Kung Fu Master

MD
01-07-2004, 11:32 AM
Depends on exactly what you are defining a fighter as...

Strider
01-07-2004, 11:42 AM
Depends on exactly what you are defining a fighter as...

Screens scrolls, your guy can punch people (or pick up various weapons to fight with)

so things like, Kung Fu Master, Double Dragon, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Final fight and so on.

MD
01-07-2004, 11:54 AM
Spartan X (you dare call it Kung Fu Master...) was probably the most well know. :D

Technically you could also have Fighting Roller by Taito 1983... :D

Although I think there are a few games even earlier then that...

Tobal
01-07-2004, 03:32 PM
does Renegade count? it had weapons, throws and stuff.

Strider
01-07-2004, 03:58 PM
does Renegade count? it had weapons, throws and stuff.

Yeah, but that was 1986, I'm looking for anything before (looks around to see if MD is here) Kung Fu Master.

MD
01-07-2004, 04:12 PM
Oi, call it Spartan X by Irem or else.

Jackie Chan in Project A, Pony Canyon, MSX I think was just out before Spartan X and had scrolling (if a pixel green tree outline counts as scrolling....).

Still thats 2 games before Spartan X... ;)

Strider
01-07-2004, 04:32 PM
Were they arcade titles though?

MD
01-07-2004, 04:55 PM
Why you limiting it to arcade titles? :/

Anway your thread wasn't very clear, you didn't specify arcade arcade titles. ;)

Anyway Fighting Roller is probably the first scrolly beat 'em up as fulfills the beating up things and scrolling aspect. :D

Ex_mosquito
01-07-2004, 05:37 PM
EDIT.........

Oh! My Car!
01-07-2004, 05:57 PM
*sniffs*

I smell Final Fight in the air!! :D

nick_the_judge
01-07-2004, 10:03 PM
POW (prisoner of war) used to love that game

SuperBrother
02-07-2004, 07:59 AM
I vaguely remember a side scroller before Kung Fu Master which was very similar but you had to fight a bull in one stage.

Of course Rastan Saga is the best game of this type, don't you forget it!

MD
02-07-2004, 08:26 AM
Your thinking of Data Easts Karate Champ which er isn't a side scrolling beat 'em up... It was however the first one on one beat em up. :D

Rastan Saga is more er a slash em up rather then a beat em up too.... ^_^;

Strider
02-07-2004, 08:35 AM
Got to agree with MD on this, Rastan saga isn't a beat-em-up.

I'm basically thinking of anything where you initially start off with just your fists if a game gives you a weapon from the very off (tiger road, black tiger, rastan saga, magic sword (but dynasty warriors is) and so on) then it's not a beat-em-up (imo)

SuperBrother
02-07-2004, 08:55 AM
Nice one MD, that's the game I was thinking of.
Fair point about Rastan, it still wipes the floor with the other side scrollers or it's era though.
Given that Karate Champ was one on one then Kung Fu Master is the 1st one I can think of. It may be worth checking out KLOV or mamefan to double check.

These Games TM retro sections don't write themselves you know ;)

Strider
02-07-2004, 09:39 AM
These Games TM retro sections don't write themselves you know ;)

I don't know what you're on about...

;) :p

Molloy
03-07-2004, 06:47 PM
Games of the style of Kung Fu Master died off pretty quickly. I think it's really Renegade that defined the template for the scrolling fighter.

Leon Retro
06-07-2004, 07:13 AM
Kung Fu Master( Spartan-X ;) ) seems to be the first scrolling fighter ever.

I went through Mame and couldn`t find anything else earlier to 1984.

MD
06-07-2004, 03:55 PM
Yeah MAME great way to do research... :p It's like trying to find the habbitats of the African Swallow from the Ladybird book of birds.

Found 3 other games which came before Spartan X which could be classified as scrolling beat 'me ups...

Renegade? Renegade? Don't give me that light weight game, give me Nekketsu Kouha Kunio-kun. :D