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    #31
    The only people that didn't care about Model 2 using quads were Sega themselves.
    Lots of people wanted Model 2 and 3 style visuals on their home systems and even Nvida went the Quad route with some of their Video Cards . I remember most of the press didn't even believe SEGA when they said the DC could outperform Model 3 . Mind you I bet people like you were all for SEGA going for 3DFX for the DC

    In fact quite a few of the companies that even decided to make games for the system would only use one CPU & one VDP as they found the extra coding effort involved in using both was not worth it.
    Are these the same ones that never had a problem making games for the PS3 the PS2 or N64 ? All systems that had issues with tools, costly development systems or hard to program for Hardware ? . If your system gets market share developers will back them and say how they love to code to the metal .

    The only way to get the most from Saturn was to program in Assembler which 99% of people didn't want to do
    Yeah you had to code for system and use it has a console , shock Horror ; Just what a console developer should do
    You never saw developers moan and stop supporting the Snes with its issues over lack of Sound compression and low Ram issues for sound , its total alien design for CPU compared to the what developers were used to, never mind the PS2 CPU and CPU, the PS3 CPU , or even the N64 . Nope you get market share and excuses about tools and being hard to program for, go out the window.

    The trouble was SEGA took the piss with the consumer retail and developers in how they tried to sell them 2 different 32bit systems , Instead of being focused souly one 1 system with a single marketing and development strategy - That's where it really went wrong

    There's no doubt that Model 2 was a fantastic ARCADE board though for Sega. Expensive but it gave them some classic Arcade games
    SEGA Am team made a lot of money from Model 2, It was the slow and low take up of Model 3 that cost SEGA and led to the AM team posting their 1st loss and one of the reasons SEGA lost money in 1998

    And from the minute Sega started spending money on Saturn development to the minute they halted support for it they had wasted half a billion dollars.
    SEGA never sold the Saturn at a lost it was always around cost price , like with the Mega CD and through those systems life's SEGA was posting profits . It was the DC that SEGA sold at a massive lost to SEGA for each unit sold and that was reflected in SEGA losses. So you're quite wrong to make out SEGA made lossed for 4 years and over ?250 million on the back of the Saturn.

    However they were making money in the arcades, quite alot actually and still making money on the Megadrive/Genesis and even the Sega CD to a lesser extent as well as making money on software sales which masked the money they were losing on Saturn and that's why they posted a small profit as late as 1996/7.
    SEGA AM Teams bar the Model 3 era always bring inthe money and its thanks to them that SEGA been able to post profits over the last few years

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      #32
      Lads, how about making a new thread for this Sega profit/loss discussion? This thread has been massively derailed from the OP, which is being completely ignored.

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        #33
        Guys, if you like this release of Geist Force, just wait until a future release is made. I'm already playing on the fire stage which can't be accessed in this release. Some of us who have had the game for a few months now are working on ways to access all the data on the disc. There's far more in stages and environment to see that currently can't be accessed via game play.

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          #34
          Good work dude! Keep us updated.

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            #35
            Check these screen shots that BrAzE (A member of ASSEMblergames working on opening up stuff) posted a few weeks back. These are all taken using the build evenone now has access to.

            Level 2 past the crash area


            Level 4 (The ice stage leads on to this fire stage although I have a feeling the level packs are in the wrong order. This stage should be in space I think judging from the fire planet found on stage 6 and the promotion videos)


            Level 4 (Notice the buildings plus you can fly past the crash area but get stuck in another crash area further on).


            Unseen areas of level 5 just as shown on the promotion screen shots from 1998!!



            Stage 6 - a new fire planet has been found.
            Last edited by Yakumo; 14-11-2012, 11:53.

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              #36
              Will have to give this a blast when my DC is up and running.

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