PCs and Steam: Thread 01

[MartyG]

Well, looks like September 20th is the announcement of the RTX 40XX graphics cards. Can't imagine it's anything else.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/special-event/?ncid=em-even-316067#cid=dt005_em-even_en-gb

[huxley]

Interesting timing, ETH merger is expected around 15th - was previously 16th - 20th
Countdown - https://watcher.guru/ethmerge
I wonder how many 30 series cards are going to end up being sold off on the cheap unless mining pools currently mining ETH can find an alternative thats still cost efficient. the 40 series cards need to be much lower priced this time around.

[Neon Ignition]

https://twitter.com/SEGA_OFFICIAL/status/1570029678739750913?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1570029678739750913%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Judgment and it's sequel are coming to Steam

[briareos_kerensky]

Digital Foundry's analysis of Intel's upscaling technology.

[briareos_kerensky]

EVGA will no longer manufacture nVidia GPUs, which corresponds to around 80% of their current revenue. And they are not entertaining the idea of partnering with AMD or Intel either.

[MartyG]

I saw yesterday - EVGA makes some good cards, but I can't see this impacting on NVIDIA's business as much as it will on EVGA. Despite claims otherwise, I'd predict layoffs in the next six months. Although it may not represent 80% of their profit margin (that figure is revenue, not profit), it's still a significant percentage of it, so it can't not have a negative impact on them if they're not filling that income with something else.

Another board partner will just come along and snatch up any 4XXX silicon EVGA leave behind, and people will continue to buy NVIDIA GPUs like before.

[eastyy]

I saw yesterday - EVGA makes some good cards, but I can't see this impacting on NVIDIA's business as much as it will on EVGA. Despite claims otherwise, I'd predict layoffs in the next six months. Although it may not represent 80% of their profit margin (that figure is revenue, not profit), it's still a significant percentage of it, so it can't not have a negative impact on them if they're not filling that income with something else.

Another board partner will just come along and snatch up any 4XXX silicon EVGA leave behind, and people will continue to buy NVIDIA GPUs like before.

I was thinking though...EVGA have fabrication processes of there own plus plenty of graphics card engineers, it would be funny if they made there own original graphics cards instead

[MartyG]

It would be a miracle if that happened. It's a bit of an over-simplification, but essentially they take NVIDIA's silicon and put coolers on it. There's a massive massive difference between what EVGA has been doing and developing your own GPUs from scratch, as Intel is currently finding out.

[fishbowlhead]

It would be a miracle if that happened. It's a bit of an over-simplification, but essentially they take NVIDIA's silicon and put coolers on it. There's a massive massive difference between what EVGA has been doing and developing your own GPUs from scratch, as Intel is currently finding out.

Year not much chance of evga doing this, it’s rather difficult to make silicone chips in any capacity, hence why it’s quite a big deal when a fabrication plant goes up for sale.

[Neon Ignition]

$1200 for RTX4080. Glad this gen of RTXs is an easy one to skip thanks to the heavily protracted lifespan of cross gen

[MartyG]

RTX 4080 starts at $899, 4090 at $1,599 - I think they might struggle at those prices given the Crypto market has evaporated (at least after the initial mad rush), this will be especially true if AMD pulls the rug from under their feet with the 7000 series cards. I'm not going to be rushing out to buy one till we know the bigger picture.

[Neon Ignition]

On Era, without being able to really delve into the details yet myself, it seems like Nvidia is resting a fair bit on DLSS3 to impress. That the raw gains of the cards don't justify the prices and they may have left an open goal for AMD

[MartyG]

And that was impressive - there are some increases in CUDA cores and changes to clocks (they are a lot higher), so there should be raster improvements but I would be waiting for the reviews to see how that impacts real-world usage, rather than NVIDIA's "charts" without any kind of axis definitions.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 24GB
CUDA cores: 16384
GPU boost clock: 2.52GHz
GPU base clock: 2.23GHz
Memory: 24GB GDDR6X
Memory interface: 384-bit
Graphics card power: 450W
Power connectors: 3 x 8-pin (or PCIe Gen5 cable)


NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 16GB
CUDA cores: 9728
GPU boost clock: 2.51GHz
GPU base clock: 2.21GHz
Memory: 16GB GDDR6X
Memory interface: 256-bit
Graphics card power: 320W
Power connectors: 3 x 8-pin (or PCIe Gen5 cable)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 12GB
CUDA cores: 7680
GPU boost clock: 2.61GHz
GPU base clock: 2.31GHz
Memory: 12GB GDDR6X
Memory interface: 192-bit
Graphics card power: 285W
Power connectors: 2 x 8-pin (or PCIe Gen5 cable)


RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA CUDA Cores 10240
Boost Clock 1.67 GHz
Memory Size 12 GB

RTX 3080
NVIDIA CUDA Cores 8960 / 8704
Boost Clock 1.71 GHz
Memory Size 12 GB / 10 GB

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2022/09/20/2519483/0/en/NVIDIA-Introduces-DLSS-3-With-Breakthrough-AI-Powered-Frame-Generation-for-up-to-4x-Performance.html

DLSS3 is 40xx exclusive which is fine except for the seeming lack of info on DLSS2 comparison. Going off the list of 35 compatible games though it doesn't seem likely to stretch the possibilities of almost any card new or not for a while

[CMcK]

450 Watt graphic cards! £1400 to buy and another £1400 to run your rig for a year…