That's definitely a solution but it's too long term. Again, using Nazis as an example (Godwin himself has suspended Godwin's Law) you just have to look at how quick the timeline was. How quickly you could get to genocide. So yes, it's the solution and it is critical but it's the long game. In your ship example, throwing someone in the brig is exactly what would happen if that person is destructive or a danger to the other 3. Someone who knows ships better might know otherwise but I think that's how this works. If it's a disagreement about dinner, that's one thing. If it's "let's put babies in cages", then the result will be lots of side eye and wondering how quickly the situation will go south and acting on it rather than "let's all acknowledge your need to put babies in cages and chat about it".
Personally, I don't think everyone gets a seat at the table and I think if a path has historically led to genocide, you have to cut that off, not validate it. We are literally living the "what would you have done?" moment and, as someone whose family was in eastern Europe during WW2 and invaded by both the Russians and the Nazis, surviving both, maybe this feels personal to me. But it should. Because the Nazis killed millions. The Soviets killed millions more. And many people just went on with their lives. "Wait, let's hear them out" is not the right solution in my opinion. We heard them and we saw the results. We don't need to go down that path again. Like the old saying goes: stick my hand in the toaster, shame on you, stick it in the toaster twice... wait, maybe that's not a saying...
Edit: To be very clear, this is where we are right now: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...mpression=true
“She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,” Brane, who said she was deeply troubled over the story, told the AP.
This isn't where things are heading. This is where we are right now. It has already gone too far. So yeah, I'm absolutely certain I will ignore or cut off anyone who says this is okay or a good thing because entertaining these ideas, validating them, giving them a platform and bringing them to the table is how we got here. And as long as that continues it will get much, much worse.
Personally, I don't think everyone gets a seat at the table and I think if a path has historically led to genocide, you have to cut that off, not validate it. We are literally living the "what would you have done?" moment and, as someone whose family was in eastern Europe during WW2 and invaded by both the Russians and the Nazis, surviving both, maybe this feels personal to me. But it should. Because the Nazis killed millions. The Soviets killed millions more. And many people just went on with their lives. "Wait, let's hear them out" is not the right solution in my opinion. We heard them and we saw the results. We don't need to go down that path again. Like the old saying goes: stick my hand in the toaster, shame on you, stick it in the toaster twice... wait, maybe that's not a saying...
Edit: To be very clear, this is where we are right now: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...mpression=true
“She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,” Brane, who said she was deeply troubled over the story, told the AP.
This isn't where things are heading. This is where we are right now. It has already gone too far. So yeah, I'm absolutely certain I will ignore or cut off anyone who says this is okay or a good thing because entertaining these ideas, validating them, giving them a platform and bringing them to the table is how we got here. And as long as that continues it will get much, much worse.
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