They need a geographical lock on every film project that's greenlit. Wherever the events of the film are based, your casting needs to accurately reflect that area. Sounds daft but I guess that's the only way of getting it right
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Speaking of which, I wonder how this news will go down in China? I imagine it'll be edited out.
They decriminalised homosexuality in 1997 and declassified as a mental illness in 2001, but have recently brought in a wave of new conservative laws to return to socialist values and reject Western decadence.
Media censorship regulations bans the prominent display of tattoos (I've no idea how they're showing the World Cup!) and homosexuality. They cut the Irish performance in the Eurovision semifinals because the two dancers depicted a gay kiss. European Broadcasting Union then revoked the broadcaster's right to show it saying they were defying the inclusivity and diversity that makes Eurovision what it is.
Basically, how are Marvel going to handle potential censorship to a MASSIVE share of their audience?
Saws:
European Broadcasting Union cancels contract of China’s Mango TV to screen Saturday’s finale of the Eurovision Song Contest.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-43779650
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It's all this kind of stuff that keeps them slow moving, even on ethnicity issues too. Progress will take them tens of years likely due to the scale of market considerations studios have to factor in. It always comes down to what sells and so far they lack compelling evidence to change their approach as the market says the opposite to what campaigners do.
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Black Panther says that's not quite true. People were campaigning for a long time for better representation and they really doubled down on it and delivered with Black Panther and it did amazing business everywhere, even performing solidly in China in spite of what felt like some resistance.
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Watching Spiderman: Homecoming again last night I commented to my wife about how diverse the school was - exactly what I see in high schools here. Not like the whitewash of the Sam Raimi era Spidey. It's not the presence or lack of diversity that I notice, it's how it reflects the area. I've been in a high school to the south of this city where it is ~85% white. The school I've subbed at just outside of downtown has every colour under the sun.
I would say that leaving sexuality as something unspoken reflects a lot of today's reality in many places.
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Black Panther certainly showed a positive audience reaction regarding the ethnicity issue but it remains a very isolated case of large success for it and very US-centric. That's why it'll be interesting to see if that resonates through to future films too in the series as it could and should have wider reaching consequences for US movies. Proportionate representation would be an easy start, though it'd still leave the issue of lead roles.
It's much the same for the issue of sexuality. They'll either do it in a cop out manner or it be just related to C-tier characters. We're still a long way off a major lead character of the likes of Cap, Stark etc being openly gay etc thanks to how many markets take issue with it.
It's sad that we're approaching 2020 and the industry still has only one film from last year to trumpet for 'women are getting their moment too!'
They should use their momentum to push several of these issues forward given the strength of their position. It'd be incredibly easy to have a female character take over the Iron Man persona as the comics tried but in the films for example.
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That's it exactly, QC. And SF, you're completely right that they are just playing catch up in many obvious areas. I also think some of the ideas that these movies should just reflect what I (each individual viewer) see each day doesn't always hold up. For a start, I don't know many people from New York and yet a remarkably large percentage of them are gay so the "I don't see gay people" thing doesn't ring true when a movie is set somewhere like New York. But the main reason I feel it doesn't hold up is that Black Panther did not reflect what I see each day and I had no problem relating to it. We have a movie with a racoon and a talking tree. Doesn't reflect the demographic and yet we have no problem buying into those characters. Any rejection of a gay character in a world with a talking tree has got to come down to basic homophobia, surely?
And of course there is still plenty of that and I know that's a market consideration. But there is plenty of racism too and still people went to Black Panther. Tell a good story and get a great character and world and a large amount of people will get over themselves and go see it anyway.
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That's why I'm curious if the success of Black Panther continues into its sequels. Typical MCU convention would suggest so as the sequels usually out perform the originals, sometimes by a large margin, I'm purely mindful with that film that it remains a sole example even outside of Disney. You'd hope the same could be repeated... in other words, where's Blade Feige?
In vaguely related news, it looks like Fox is siding with Disney for the merger. Time for the X-Men to say...
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Originally posted by QualityChimp View PostI don't understand your point, Buster?
How does you not liking it change the fact that it's grossed $1.3 billion and the 9th highest grossing film of all time?
It shows that ethnicity doesn't need to be an issue.
Being devil's advocate you could say because it is a movie cast mostly with people of colour then that could effect sales as more people would want to venture out and see it especially with word of mouth in the black community
It smashed the MTV movie awards but I found it all quite contrived and ethnicity is certainly a talking point when you hear from the stars of the movie in interviews
For me the best character was the baddie and glad I saw it before infinity war but for me it didn't live upto the hype and certainly would want more from a sequel, but the character black panther is fantastic
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Same could be said with the success of the fast /furious movie that was out when Paul walker died
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