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    So you're saying we should stock up on eggs!? ;-)

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      No, what I've been saying is that our egg exports become unviable if we crash out of the EU with no deal.

      The domestic egg supply won't change unless the UK decides to apply tariffs on imports, then it could become more expensive.

      With the caveat that there aren't delays at the borders due to customs checks and that Sterling doesn't tank and that suppliers in the EU still want to trade with the UK under WTO rules.
      Last edited by MartyG; 13-09-2018, 12:22.

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        Elephant in the room: loss of CAP subsidies. That and tariffs are going to destroy agriculture. It was obvious years ago that Brexit will severely harm food production.

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          That's the least of our worries now. Under a no deal Brexit, we'll no longer have access to the EU Space Surveillance and Tracking programme, meaning we'll have less warning of space debris plunging into UK soil.

          The sky is falling down because of Brexit

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            The EU has set an emergency summit in November to finalise the Brexit deal. I may be wrong but I feel that that places it beyond the point where if UK MPs reject the deal there's any time to avoid a No Deal outcome.

            Raab seems to confirm that as he suggests it's take this or get no deal. He also restates that people need to forget any chance of there being a second referendum on the matter. Another suggestion he seems to be making is that he will look at any ideas the EU has regarding avoiding a hard border with Ireland, which seems to imply the UK is done trying to figure that one out themselves. He also says it's the EU's turn to make compromises.

            Austria's EU minister refutes that saying it's on the UK to move things forward - So, sounds perfectly in sync to agree a deal yeah?

            Yeah?...

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              May says to the EU27 there's no chance she'll delay Brexit Day



              Macron tells the EU27 they should face off any thoughts of compromising for a deal with the UK



              The Hungarian Prime Minister says some of the EU27 share the view that the UK must be 'punished' for Brexit and the 'British must suffer' for the decision.


              So yeah, deal imminent...

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                Are we absolutely sure that Theresa May isn't actually a new Barry Humphries character?

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                  Theresa May also said there'd never be a snap election.

                  Ruling out options is just mindbogglingly stupid. All that does is leave you with less options.

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                    The idea that the UK should be punished or should suffer beyond the natural consequences of leaving all the deals that come with the EU is pretty awful. I would hope that's not representative of views around the rest of the EU. I can tell you with certainty that it's not the view here. We do roll our eyes hard at the stories blaming the EU for things that you're now leaving but nobody benefits from the UK doing worse. It's not good for us here in Ireland and it's not good for Europe.

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                      It feels like you have two scenarios, either there's no deal or some last minute cobbled together rubbish that MP's will probably shoot down when they vote. It's kind of hard to see past No Deal at this point as unless any agreed deal is actually outright good for all parties it seems we'd exit under something makeshift and then it'd fall apart with time afterward anyway which you'd think would be more damaging than taking the clearer hit from the off.

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                        It was always a fantasy that the EU would compromise the very foundation of the four freedoms on which the EU was built.

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                          Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has said that Chequers will remain unchanged and that the EU's approach to avoiding an Irish Border is impossible to achieve.

                          It really does feel like everyone knows No Deal is going to happen but everyone is still trying to line themselves up to avoid the blame for the return of a hard Irish border.

                          Which leads us into the pointlessly yet endlessly raised matter of a second referendum:



                          Constitutional experts have assessed the situation and reached the conclusion that without the Article 50 deadline being delayed (already ruled out) we're already past the point of no return as running another referendum now would be incredibly difficult and likely immediately challenged regardless of the outcome.

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                            Originally posted by Superman Falls View Post
                            the return of a hard Irish border.
                            As was always going to be the case if we left, even before the vote.

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                              Originally posted by Superman Falls View Post
                              https://www.theguardian.com/politics...alzburg-ambush

                              Transport Secretary Chris Grayling has said that Chequers will remain unchanged and that the EU's approach to avoiding an Irish Border is impossible to achieve.

                              It really does feel like everyone knows No Deal is going to happen but everyone is still trying to line themselves up to avoid the blame for the return of a hard Irish border.

                              Which leads us into the pointlessly yet endlessly raised matter of a second referendum:



                              Constitutional experts have assessed the situation and reached the conclusion that without the Article 50 deadline being delayed (already ruled out) we're already past the point of no return as running another referendum now would be incredibly difficult and likely immediately challenged regardless of the outcome.
                              1. Rule it back in.
                              2. I'm challenging the first referendum result, as are millions because EVERYONE was lied to

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                                Originally posted by Asura View Post
                                As was always going to be the case if we left, even before the vote.
                                No, May assured there would be no hard border. She is a woman of her word, right?

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