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View Poll Results: When Will We Move On?

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  • 2019

    1 5.88%
  • 2020

    6 35.29%
  • 2021

    7 41.18%
  • 2022

    1 5.88%
  • 2023 or Beyond

    2 11.76%
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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Superman Falls View Post
    All the more reason for them to hold off on launching them then
    The XBX only gets away with its price point because of the nature of the machine and its intended audience, if it were the only Xbox One on the market MS would be out the race in double quick time.
    2 to 3 years is a long time and 400 is cheap when you hold it up against what SONY asked for the PS3 back in 2007 for a then 425 quid. You just have to make one's product desirable and you can get away with a high price for the short term, more so as at launch it's only the die-hards and gamer nuts that will be the product then, while the masses wait for the price drops.

    I don't see BC being much of an issue either if MS and SONY stick with AMD and its looks like both will. I hope for both one will be able to use their old controllers and games right out of the box.

  2. #42
    Another possibility is that we're going to see more cloud gaming.

    I know OnLive and Nexus Q was cancelled, but it feels like this is getting some momentum again.

    With PlayStation Now, Blade, GeForce Now and AMD's LiquidSky already established and rumours of Sony's Phil Harrison purloined by Google to work on their "Project Yeti", I can imagine dumb terminals connecting to ever-upgrading virtual hardware being more prevalent.

  3. #43
    The trouble with the 400 price point though is that no new gen system has ever launched at that point and been a real success, each system that launched at that price struggled as a result. Now, PS4 Pro is more powerful at the 350 price point than the base PS4 but we also don't get to see anything developed for it that truly demonstrates that so there's room for PS5 to be more powerful than a PS4 Pro whilst coming in at 350 and showing a true difference but it would mean the software being developed in a way that shows this jump. Shouldn't be an issue but the amount of lazy cross gen porting in the first two years of this gen suggests they'll struggle to justify the new hardware if they don't make an effort much faster.

    MS seems committed to continuing BC with the next machine and beyond so potentially Xbox users are best positioned going forward where 'next gen' for them is mostly in name unless they actively block future games at that time from running on XBO and XBX.

    Sony, they do seem to favour blocking it out to sell remasters still

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Superman Falls View Post
    The trouble with the 400 price point though is that no new gen system has ever launched at that point and been a real success
    The Amiga sold well enough at a super high price, so did the PS3 and if one takes account of inflation then systems that did rather well despite a high price tag on their release. To me its all about making people want your product, you do that then people find the money for it somehow

    http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/10/0...with-inflation

  5. #45
    For some reason I had this all running through my head last night and the distinct thought came to me that Microsoft is much more dangerously positioned than it currently feels like it is.

    The company historically struggles to keep software under wraps, leaks have always somewhat dogged it and despite the software issues the Xbox One faces it's still looking incredibly dry looking forward. It's not unreasonable to assume that later this year Crackdown 3 will launch with Forza Horizon 4 and 343's new project leading the charge over Xmas primarily. Next year seems very likely to be something along the lines of Halo 6, Gears of War 5 and/or Forza Motorsport 8. The only real project knocked about is Fable IV though out of those 4 it's not hard to imagine Fable IV and either Gears or Halo getting kicked back as Xbox 4 launch titles in 2020.

    Though each series is solid, it's an increasingly stale slate from MS and maintains that need for them to invest in new ip the same way Sony does. However, there's still little evidence MS is doing so unless they are doing so but are able to keep an incredible lid on it. If not then it's all too easy for Sony to maintain the momentum they've enjoyed all this gen if both the next rivals machines are similarly pitched again. It's not secret that Xbox One sales, on a worldwide basis, have been kept hushed but broadly considered as underwhelming and if that lack of propulsion leads them into a new generation then it's not hard to imagine a scenario where sales are even slower and they have to question whether they remain in the race or just reduce their efforts to W10 Store as Steam like store front and retire the Xbox console line

  6. #46
    What would make you buy the XBox Two (made up name)?

    Like the 360's promise of handling more enemies (Dead Rising) swayed me, but the One's anti-consumer, anti-gamer stance turned me away.

    What are people looking for in a console that would make buying Microsoft's console over competition, next time a hardware refresh comes around?

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by QualityChimp View Post
    What are people looking for in a console that would make buying Microsoft's console over competition, next time a hardware refresh comes around?
    Games, 12 of them, exclusive (the real meaning of the term, not bought-in or timed or on PC) and none of them can be Halo or Forza, unless they're a dramatically different interpretation of those franchises. As a PC owner I'm particularly hard-to-please, I think.

    Either that or the console would have to do something not possible with my existing machines. The Switch is an example of this, hence why I bought one.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Asura View Post
    Games, 12 of them, exclusive
    Cut to: E3 2019, a Microsoft spokesperson struts the stage.
    MS Guy: "We're proud to announce the Xbox Two will launch with eleven unique titles!"
    Asura: "Pffft"
    Buys PS5.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by QualityChimp View Post
    Cut to: E3 2019, a Microsoft spokesperson struts the stage.
    MS Guy: "We're proud to announce the Xbox Two will launch with eleven unique titles!"
    Asura: "Pffft"
    Buys PS5.
    DAMN STRAIGHT

  10. #50
    So why does Nintendo always get such a free pass, when they can barley make any more In House exclusives than MS and it's nothing more than more Mario, Mario Kart and Zelda. Really what's coming from Nintendo In House teams over the next year?.

    Not that MS In House line up is any different from the 360 days, what MS needs to do is get some more Japanese support, that the only major change from the 360 days even in the 360 days it's was little more than Forza, Halo and Gears and MS have always lacked for In House IPs imo. Sony has been the best for In House teams since Sega Japan gave up with the DC
    Last edited by Team Andromeda; 13-02-2018 at 02:00 PM.

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