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    Star Trek: Discovery

    http://www.darkhorizons.com/star-tre...-captain-pike/

    Season 2 is beginning to take shape and will follow on from the S1 cliff hanger with Anson Mount (Inhumans) cast as Captain Pike who the crew of the Discovery meet up with aboard the USS Enterprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman Falls View Post
    Season 2 is beginning to take shape and will follow on from the S1 cliff hanger with Anson Mount (Inhumans) cast as Captain Pike who the crew of the Discovery meet up with aboard the USS Enterprise.
    Aww, that's a shame - not that they're getting a second season, that's awesome, but rather they're not getting the Abrams movie actor, Bruce Greenwood. Although it would've been a big ask, I thought they might get him for a smaller role in the way they got Michelle Yeoh for the first one.

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    The show is so different to the movies, I think it would have been impossible to bring them together in any coherent way. But I also felt it a shame when I read it. And my next thought was: is it possible we'll have two different Spocks on the go at once? Where there's a Pike, I'd expect a Spock.

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    Given Spock should be onboard the Enterprise at that time it would be a massive, massive shame and oversight not to have Zachary Quinto return in the role given he's no stranger to doing TV work.

    I can imagine them avoiding doing so though, probably through thinking that they want to avoid confusion with the Kelvin timeline movies but that just emphasises why Discovery and any further Trek content should never have returned to Timeline-A in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman Falls View Post
    I can imagine them avoiding doing so though, probably through thinking that they want to avoid confusion with the Kelvin timeline movies but that just emphasises why Discovery and any further Trek content should never have returned to Timeline-A in the first place.
    Can't say I agree with that. I kinda see the Abrams universe as its own thing, and after Into Darkness and Beyond, I'm happy for it to stay that way.

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    Whilst the Abrams timeline runs separate it's mostly free to do it's own thing which is why I'd prefer it to be the default from here on. By the time Voyager and Enterprise were winding down the original canon was in tatters as they'd gone forwards and backwards so many times with it. If Discovery took place in the Kelvin timeline then it wouldn't have to worry about clashing with anything. Given the time it takes place not much would be different but it wouldn't have to worm storylines around a minefield of decades of canon. It just feels like for the first year they've had to be mindful of the scrutiny of hardcore fans for no particularly beneficial reason.

    The Kelvin timeline works really well as it gives them a clean slate, the main issue being the Abrams aesthetic making little sense and the nature of the films limiting its use. A series set in the Kelvin timeline would be interesting, especially over the coming years and beyond as they take aspects of it so seriously it'd be interesting to see the butterfly effect nature on the canon given how many major effects would still occur due to not being directly affected by the events of STXI. Enterprise is canon to both timelines meaning the Borg are still distantly on their way towards Earth, the Nexus is out there, the Dominion War would eventually erupt potentially without DS9's involvement etc. Best of all, none of the nonsense stuff like 31st century time ships and time cops exists!

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    The difficulty there is that, as soon as you add more Trek to that timeline, it is no longer free to do its own thing and so loses that attractive quality. I think the flaw in Discovery is not which timeline it is tied into but the fact that they so closely connected it with existing elements that it matters which timeline it ties into.

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    That's the constant issue Trek skirts with. Despite how long it's run for it feels like Paramount feel bound to the Kirk/Picard arcs with each attempt to move away to a wider Trek universe (DS9, Voyager etc) eventually seeing a viewer decline or need to link in somehow. I imagine that's how the awkward proposition of Enterprise and later the Kelvin Timeline came about. Whilst the Kelvin Timeline would eventually go down the same issues it bought them a lot of time, time they seem reluctant to use at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superman Falls View Post
    Best of all, none of the nonsense stuff like 31st century time ships and time cops exists!
    If the time cops didn't exist, there'd never have been the excellent Trials and Tribble-ations DS9 episode

    I can't say I found Discovery improved particularly towards then end, though some of the latter episodes were better than the first. The finale was bloody awful though.

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    the finale is one the worst ends to story arc of anything i've watched, my previous rant was lost in the reset but it pissed me off with all that backslapping for not killing the badguys after they've murdered most of starfleet, by handing over a WMD to religious nutter and hoping she does turn on you or the klingons deal with the problem (surely it can't be hard for them to find this bomb) and start the killing again, specially after they seemed quite happy to murder thousands on board the teran ship.
    Last edited by Tobal; 11-04-2018 at 11:34 PM.

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