The Knights of Valor games, Oriental Legend and The Gladiator are all awesome 4 player beat ‘em ups on the PGM. Except I’ve never got to experience 4 player as I have no friends...
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It's such a shame that there's no decent scrolling beat em ups on the Neo Geo. It would be the perfect console for them due to it being the Rolls Royce of consoles of the time. However, they are all just a bit crap. I bought Sengoku 3 after playing it on MAME. It was only when I put some time into it that I realised how repetitive it is. As others have said, the enemies are all the same and there's so little variety. It's sad as the basic gameplay is really good.
Streets of Rage 2 is one of my favourite games of all time. The music is amazing and the whole thing is very atmospheric (it goes a bit off kilter with the pirate ship and underground Aliens level). However, its the variety of the attacks that really make it work. It always feels like you've got enough moves at your disposal to keep things interesting without the overwhelming plethora of attacks you get in Battle Circuit.
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Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostIt would be the perfect console for them due to it being the Rolls Royce of consoles of the time.
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Originally posted by Leon Retro View PostYeah, the tech is perfect for the genre, but sadly a top developer didn't deliver a brilliant example. Something like Streets of Rage 2 using the extra power and features of the Neo Geo tech could have been stunning. If only SNK had committed more strongly to the genre like Capcom did at the time.
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Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostAye, it's a real shame. I can't see anyone really doing the genre justice these days. There's stuff like Castle Crashers which gets a lot of praise but it's all steeped in post modern irony which is a real turn off. It would be great to see someone come along and make a new scrolling beat 'em-up which takes the genre and all it's tropes seriously rather than trying to distance themselves from it by laughing into their sleeves.
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Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostAye, it's a real shame. I can't see anyone really doing the genre justice these days.
It's a shame we didn't get loads of them during the PS1/Saturn era, because the genre could have benefited immensely from more storage space and 32-bit tech.
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Originally posted by Leon Retro View PostIt's a shame we didn't get loads of them during the PS1/Saturn era, because the genre could have benefited immensely from more storage space and 32-bit tech.
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Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostI always thought it was strange that there weren't more on the Saturn. The Dungeons and Dragons games from Capcom were good despite the continuous loading and Die Hard Arcade was great. It would have been good to see a proper 2D Street of Rage 4 on the console. They could have really puched the boat out if they'd used the 4Meg RAM cart.
I'm pretty sure that a Streets of Rage 4 taking full advantage of the CD format and the power of the Saturn would have been a reasonably big hit. As much as some people might have had enough of the series at that point, there were still gamers that craved arcade-style games that finally delivered true arcade quality in the home.
It's also a shame that Capcom didn't convert more of its CPS games to the Saturn, such as AVP.
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I was hoping Capcom would port AvP to the PlayStation, following the release of Captain Commando... unfortunately with that one I think it’s more of a silly IP rights issue
It would have been cool to see Armoured Warriors on the Saturn, I’m sure it could have managed it with the RAM cart. Knights of the Round with full three player support would have been great too. And whilst we’re at it, both the Rockman Power Fighters/Battle games too.
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Originally posted by _SD_ View PostIunfortunately with that one I think it’s more of a silly IP rights issue
Originally posted by _SD_ View PostIt would have been cool to see Armoured Warriors on the Saturn,
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Originally posted by CMcK View PostIt would be great to see NGDevTeam turn their attention to the scrolling beat 'em up genre after Kraut Buster and give the Neo it's own SoR 2 or Final Fight.
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As soon as NGDev appeared I hoped they'd be making a scrolling beat 'em-up. It just turned out to be euro style shooters and then the entirely pointless Kraut Buster (seriously, it's just a crap Metal Slug without any of the charm). I don't think they have what it takes to produce a top quality beat 'em-up.
Part of the appeal of the genre is that it is Japan's take on American movies. It pays homage to an already stylish interpretation of street violence and gang culture. As a result, it's very much of its time and place which is why I think it's so hard for anyone to do it justice anymore.
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Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostKraut Buster (seriously, it's just a crap Metal Slug without any of the charm). I don't think they have what it takes to produce a top quality beat 'em-up.
I just looked at a video of it in action - and it looks like a pale imitation of a Metal Slug game. The graphics look reasonable - and I guess it might be reasonably fun to play, but I won't be in a rush to play it.
Originally posted by BigDeadFreak View PostPart of the appeal of the genre is that it is Japan's take on American movies. It pays homage to an already stylish interpretation of street violence and gang culture. As a result, it's very much of its time and place which is why I think it's so hard for anyone to do it justice anymore.
Just look at how bland and uninspiring Fighting Force was on the PS1.
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