Did it the lazy way - bought a mem card with EVERYTHING unlocked; no way was I going to unlock a lot of it the normal way! (GX)
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Retro Arena: F-Zero vs Wipeout
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Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View PostSo what? They put F-Zero stuff in NintendoLand!!
Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Post
I obviously appreciate the original (who doesn’t?) - I probably preferred it to Super Mario Kart back then!
Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View PostF-Zero X is my pick for best in the series, which I know is controversial to the AX/GX crowd. Yes, its severely minimal presentation and graphical aesthetic is awful even by N64 standards and yes, the “rawk” remastering of the original soundtrack it used isn’t to everybody’s taste (I loved it!) but it conveyed the sensation of speed excellently
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Originally posted by Leon Retro View PostWell, that's another reason to have a tiny bit of hope. If we don't get a new F-Zero within the next 5 years, I'll finally accept it's never going to happen.
There’s hope and then there’s delusion.Last edited by Nu-Eclipse; 09-06-2019, 05:01.
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Originally posted by Leon Retro View PostWell, that's another reason to have a tiny bit of hope. If we don't get a new F-Zero within the next 5 years, I'll finally accept it's never going to happen.
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Originally posted by Nu-Eclipse View Postand then there’s delusion.
Originally posted by Team Andromeda View PostNever give up, it took SEGA like 17 years to make a sequel to Outrun
I will also hope and pray for OutRun 3.
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Originally posted by dvdx2 View PostThink there is either some serious rose tinted glasses being worn or people are still on an ecstasy rave trip of the 90’s!
Have you played an old ps1/Saturn wipeout game recently? Clunky, janky, low FPS, polygons warping and wobbling; I always felt I was wading through treacle with them and the horrible metal clang noise when hitting the track would drive you insane. It was the music, logos and iconic marking that made them; can’t argue with that. Loved fusion though and the the F-zeros from x onwards. GX still is incredible - I don’t think anything has come close.
Exactly the same as the majority of racing games on PS360.
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Originally posted by nakamura View PostWipeout games on PS1 are locked 30fps on NTSC
F-Zero X running at 60fps felt silky smooth, but at the expense of detailed graphics. You couldn't have both. I have always appreciated how Nintendo went for 30 crafts at 60fps over graphical detail.
The Wipeout games were always about creating a sense of being in futuristic places full of detail, so 25/30fps was the best they could get out of the hardware.
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30 FPS is still a thing today. We haven't got close to a 60fps standard for racing games. Team Sonic Racing isn't stable, Forza Horizon needs an Xbox One for 60, The Crew isn't, Drive Club isn't.
The Wipeout games are still very smooth and playable. The handling is by design, it's not meant to be razor sharp, they did that with Fusion and it was rejected for feeling too tight and not floaty enough.
The original is certainly the dated on in terms of gameplay, it does feel a bit hollow due to the lack of real racing or action, but 2097 and 3 feel fantastic.Last edited by nakamura; 10-06-2019, 08:39.
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Originally posted by Leon Retro View Post30fps was decent for those days. I went back to Wipeout 3 and thought it felt reasonably nice to play.
That said I do like this gen for the move up 60 fps for more racers (and FPS) like with Forza 4, F1 series Dirt series , Project Cars 2 .
Hoping Codemasters also makes Grid 60 fps for the consoles this gen too
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Originally posted by nakamura View PostThe original is certainly the dated on in terms of gameplay, it does feel a bit hollow due to the lack of real racing or action, but 2097 and 3 feel fantastic.
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2097 didn't have rubber banding per se, it has a pre determined AI system where the craft would speed ahead in order. So the first five, second five, third five etc. The first 5 would be the fastest and would race at a top speed for a few laps, again, it's much like a time trial but done a lot better. You could actually keep up with the first five if you were good enough and get to the lead early, but the clearly slow down after a while. They always race in the same order too.
3 felt more like a proper racer, racing against real AI. It was a vast improvement in that area.
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