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Number45
07-12-2010, 02:30 PM
So, anyone else just started/restarted playing? I activated my account at the end of last week so that I could go through the new opening areas - I'm going to hold off of Cataclysm for a little while so that the Goblin starting areas quieten down somewhat.

I've rolled a Troll Druid, Tauren Paladin and Undead Priest so far. I'm enjoying the Undead starting quests the most at the moment, although I was disappointed to see few changes to Undercity (after the opening quests suggested Varimathras had taken a part of the city) after the amazing facelift Orgrimmar has had. <3

I've started all new characters on Magtheridon, if anyone's interested. I'm a very casual player though, so don't look for me if you're expecting someone to rush through content with - I want to enjoy the new levelling experience!

abigsmurf
07-12-2010, 03:28 PM
Yep I've restarted (restarted after the big patch)

Level 58 now, just gone to outland... the redesigned 'vanilla' just serves to highlight how awful that place is...

Anyhow my thoughts on the new vanilla:

Whilst every zone has had their quests overhauled, the quality of the overhauls are very mixed. Some of them are radically different with some creative and entertaining quests. Others have near exactly the same quests, only they've been reworked to make them faster and less painful (rather than "kill 10 warlocks, 10 berserkers, 10 warriors" it's "kill 15 mobs in this area"). Existing long questlines have been trimmed down to make them less convoluted.

There seems to be a big bias towards Kalimdor in terms of the zones with the most work done to them which means outside of the redesigned starter zones, most low level alliance have to wait a while before coming to something radically different. Stormwind has changes in areas no one goes to, Ironforge has no notable changes (outside of some dark iron quest stuff)

The biggest problem though is the speed of levelling. You'll end up skipping zones and, without reading a guide, it's hard to know if you're skipping one that has had a big change.

If you want to experience as much content as possible, avoid doing the instances. All the old world instances have been redesigned to make it possible to easily complete them in 30 minutes. Strong emphasis on 'easily'. They're so trivial they're boring. You get huge xp (quests for instances are now handed out by NPCs at the entrance), almost never wipe and get blue items. Only instance worth doing is Deadmines which is the instance they put the most work into. Avoid BGs too (huge xp).

tldr: if you want to experience the best stuff, check out a guide (or ask on the WoW forums) to see where to go at what level a lot of work has gone into the old world stuff but not as much has changed as radically as Blizzard hyped. Don't expect to be challenged in any way for old world content though.

Number45
07-12-2010, 03:31 PM
I intend on levelling multiple characters, so I'll mix and match my zones accordingly to make sure I see everything that I can. Going to take my time as well, so no level 58 in two weeks for me!

dataDave
07-12-2010, 04:02 PM
I like the starter quests in the underwater zone... They send you out looking for pick ups in enemy territory which rocks on a PvP realm.

I just tried saving a warrior from a DK, Paladin, and Druid. I flew in and Shadowfuried the lot into Howl of Terror, nuked down the DK whilst seducing the Paladin, then charged Soul Fire into Soulburn for another instant Soul Fire - 2x 15k crits in the Paladin's face... I couldn't catch the druid because he ran away I didn't have my rocket boots equipped. :(

Killing people on quests that don't have trinkets equipped makes me look l33t.

I left it at 50&#37; to lvl81. I can't play that much. Looking forward to rated BGs and maybe Arenas again one day if I can get around the 300ms issue playing from Singapore. Hopefully this weekend I can dump a load of gold into getting the lvl81 Engineering goggles, as well as boosting my Jewel-crafting after the mineral prices have stabilized.

abigsmurf
07-12-2010, 08:17 PM
Tried to log in.... my account's been closed for spamming adverts.

That deserves one great big "WHAT THE HELL".

number9dream
08-12-2010, 06:39 PM
You get hacked by goldsellers then i expect no idea how long it will take to sort it out.

eastyy
08-12-2010, 08:11 PM
well not sure if i will get back to wow again...played it over a year ago and got about level 49 but not felt the desire to play since then...had a problem with long winded quests lots of travelling and the time it takes to grind

has that been improved ?


oh and a question if i was to download the game for that free trial how much of a download are we talking ?

abigsmurf
08-12-2010, 08:31 PM
1-60 has little pure grinding now, if anything there isn't enough.

Still no response from Blizzard.

They don't find it a bit odd that a level 58 who's been playing for 30 or so hours would suddenly start spamming out of the blue? Did they really need to close the account point blank rather than put a hold on it until you confirm you have control over it?

Number45
08-12-2010, 09:17 PM
well not sure if i will get back to wow again...played it over a year ago and got about level 49 but not felt the desire to play since then...had a problem with long winded quests lots of travelling and the time it takes to grind

has that been improved ?


oh and a question if i was to download the game for that free trial how much of a download are we talking ?
I think the entire install for all expansions comes to around 18GB. :o

There's much less grinding now. The zones are designed with more quest hubs (and MANY more flight paths) and they're more tightly packed together. Add the Dungeon Finder and you'll more than likely outlevel zones rather than have to grind up for the next one. :)

dataDave
09-12-2010, 02:17 AM
I agree that there isn't enough grinding thesedays. You can whisk through the entire process without discovering much of the content.

Add to that the amount of end game players that play like ebayers because they've never needed to exploit their abilities to the fullest.

The game needs more dungeons that require skill like the original Magister's Terrace through lvls 10-70 that offer good exp. Questing/grinding should give next to nothing IMO.

dataDave
13-12-2010, 10:32 AM
9.1 million exp to lvl 85. T_T

I'm 15&#37; done. Luckily these new zones are awesome. Uldum is a real favourite of mine and I usually hate desert 'levels'.

abigsmurf
13-12-2010, 10:52 AM
Blizzard re-activated my account \o/

lv 63. God Outland is such an awful place to level. Jam packed with enemies, dull grindy quests...

The Vanilla changes really just show up how shoddy a lot of the quest design for TBC was. Doing most my leveling through BGs

dataDave
13-12-2010, 01:28 PM
Isn't it quicker doing instances from lvl60-70? I remember instances from 70-80 were a waste of time.

dataDave
17-12-2010, 05:06 PM
Level 85 now. I have 105k health in **** gear and I'm only doing about 10&#37; more damage than I did at 80. PvP is a tank fest and 1v2 is utterly impossible now. I don't know if I want to keep playing this to be honest. ;p I know it's only early days but with each update the game seems to progressively get ****ter and ****ter. I keep coming back because of the urge to play, but that game was left back in 2007/2008.

Number45
20-12-2010, 02:57 PM
I have started tanking. :scared:

RobRoy
20-12-2010, 07:47 PM
i started again with a troll druid. 78 tonight. The new content is awesome but it becomes a real slog (if wow is ever a slog) when you hit outland then northrend. looking forward to some nice new content again come 80 :)

Number45
20-12-2010, 08:20 PM
Yeah, I have to say I'm not really looking forward to 58-80 at all.

abigsmurf
21-12-2010, 08:21 AM
I'm level 70 at the moment. Outland was utterly painful to level through, boring quests and zones. I ended up doing most of the levelling in battlegrounds.

abigsmurf
21-12-2010, 02:44 PM
I've just read that they've removed a large portion of the wrathgate quest chain from the game.

What the hell? That was one of the most awesome parts of WOTLK

RobRoy
21-12-2010, 03:25 PM
Yeh the bit where you take back undercity is gone. Kinda makes sense since thrall is no longer the warchief

Number45
21-12-2010, 04:48 PM
Makes me sad that I'll never see that content. Don't understand why they can't use phasing - it's used heavily everywhere else in the game now.

eastyy
21-12-2010, 05:08 PM
might get into wow again next year but wanted to know whats the cheapest way to get wow and all the expansions ? ideally with as little downloading as possible (can the patches and stuff be got on disc?) as would probably eat all my Gb allowance

and whats the monthly subscription ? cheers

abigsmurf
21-12-2010, 09:02 PM
You've no choice but the patching really.

I believe the current cheapest option is to buy classic + TBC + WOTLK digitally and to buy Cataclysm from a shop. Think the subscription is &#163;9 a month but I can't remember for sure.

RobRoy
21-12-2010, 09:15 PM
Yeh i think you can get Vanilla + Burning Crusade and Wrath for &#163;16 digitally. Then youd have to buy Cataclysm. It is &#163;8.99 a month but can go cheaper if you buy in bulk :)

dataDave
22-12-2010, 01:05 AM
I'm quitting again after realising just how hard it is to either find a good arena team, or train one up from scratch.

And because I don't have a Gladiator title to throw around I can just waltz my way into an already established team.

Rated BGs, my most anticipated feature, is a complete waste of my steam considering no one can ever be arsed.

If this game had the FFXI community it'd be crack.

SUMIRE
22-12-2010, 10:20 AM
It might improve later, the expansion has only been out a few weeks I think.

abigsmurf
22-12-2010, 11:20 AM
I'm hearing reports that the heroic dungeons are stupidly difficult at the moment.

The theory is that they've designed them to force the use of crowd control but from what I've heard they've pretty much just added an extra 1 or 2 mobs every pull rather than do a real adjustment of the difficulty and that the healing hasn't scaled properly with the insane HP increases.

dataDave
25-12-2010, 07:43 AM
I'm hearing reports that the heroic dungeons are stupidly difficult at the moment.

The theory is that they've designed them to force the use of crowd control but from what I've heard they've pretty much just added an extra 1 or 2 mobs every pull rather than do a real adjustment of the difficulty and that the healing hasn't scaled properly with the insane HP increases.

I'd played and completed a few - there are particular mobs which require certain CC and everything needs marking up and designating like in a raid - but nothing like Magister's Terrace where I had to enslave demons and use them against their masters. Heroics are no longer tank+spank affairs which is nice, however I don't have time for PvE.

This is what heroics need in order to brazen early raiders. I stepped out of PvE last year due to other people not having a clue, not realising they have to move out of fire/crosshairs etc. Maybe this will give new players some learning experience.

And healing didn't seem crap to me, maybe it requires more than just spamming one button now.

Saying all that, give it a few weeks and they'll be dumbed down.

Silvergun X
25-12-2010, 01:13 PM
I'd played and completed a few - there are particular mobs which require certain CC and everything needs marking up and designating like in a raid - but nothing like Magister's Terrace where I had to enslave demons and use them against their masters. Heroics are no longer tank+spank affairs which is nice, however I don't have time for PvE.

This is what heroics need in order to brazen early raiders. I stepped out of PvE last year due to other people not having a clue, not realising they have to move out of fire/crosshairs etc. Maybe this will give new players some learning experience.

And healing didn't seem crap to me, maybe it requires more than just spamming one button now.

Saying all that, give it a few weeks and they'll be dumbed down.Healing isn't crap at all now. Healing requires a completely different trail of thought than in WotLK heroics.

My main is a Holy Priest and I pretty much started raiding at TotC so I missed out on classic, burning crusade, and WotLK stuff like Naxx and Ulduar.

I could sleep heal through heroics and even raid healing wasn't that terribly difficult through ICC due to the whole 'infinite mana' thing going on where you can just regenerate mana faster than you were using it while spamming flash heal.

Yeah, that's completely different. You'll run your mana pool down in about 20 - 30 seconds playing the same way now. However it HAS gotten a lot more fun to play. I'm dreading raiding now though...

I end up using Chakra, then Renew, then Heal. The stance it puts you in gives you 10&#37; additional crit to direct healing spells, and healing the target resets the duration of renew while adding time onto your Chakra state.

Spirit is ridiculously important as a healer now. More so than it used to be. I've got mine stacked now so repeat casting Heal only drains a very, very small amount of mana due to combat regen, and keeps renew constantly alive on the targets, so all you need to worry about is juggling renew timers. If your tank's taking a ridiculously huge amount of damage then you do Flash Heal -> Flash Heal -> Greater Heal (reduced casting time due to Serendipity talent) then continue with the renew juggling.

End result is finishing a heroic boss while still having 50% of your mana left and all your cooldowns still in place.

Great fun and a totally different style of play.

dataDave
27-12-2010, 10:21 AM
Sounds like healing during the early days of BC. BC raiding was the nads, as was the PvP.

You've really seen the worst part of the game starting with WotLK, mate. Urgh... I wish I was back home, you could spec discipline, grab a Rogue and we try some 3v3. I actually fancy Affliction now considering everyone and their dog is Destruction thesedays. :/

Shez
28-12-2010, 11:55 AM
Up at 85 now and working my way through heroic dungeons - They are not easy.

They are especially probmatic if using dungeon finder, well from my experience at least - I can see them being nerf batted for 6 in the near future. You can't go into them with one weak player and carry them through it, not for now at least.

How different from wotlk

Not tried any pvp yet, it's not really my thing, prefer a crosshair to kill players - Although I do like mass pvp and battlegrounds.

Doubt I am getting into the raiding this time around, it's too time consuming.

abigsmurf
02-01-2011, 08:37 PM
Yeah... I think I'm going to stop playing this now.

got to 85, got semi-reasonable gear to start the heroics... My experience is thus:

Wait for 50 minutes, wipe on first boss, group disbands. 3 times in a row.

Silvergun X
03-01-2011, 10:12 PM
Yeah, start off on Heroics with a guild. Thankfully i've had a really decent day for Heroics with a few random pick-up groups.

What server is everyone playing on? I recently moved to Draenor for a few friends.

dataDave
04-01-2011, 12:33 AM
Yeah... I think I'm going to stop playing this now.

got to 85, got semi-reasonable gear to start the heroics... My experience is thus:

Wait for 50 minutes, wipe on first boss, group disbands. 3 times in a row.

Queueing with randoms is pointless for now.

Doing anything with randoms is pointless actually.

Silvergun X
04-01-2011, 02:02 AM
The random situation is a lot better now. I've finished quite a few HCs today with all pick-up groups as a healer, and managed to do a decent Baradin Hold run as shadow spec.

Number45
05-01-2011, 10:34 AM
What server is everyone playing on? I recently moved to Draenor for a few friends.
Why do people always mention servers I've played on before long after I've started on a new one? :'(

Currently on Magtheridon (I always go to a 'New Players' realm when I start anew). Horde, obviously.

Shez
06-01-2011, 10:43 AM
Magtheridon, blimey that server is dead - Although I think it might be picking up a bit now with the free transfers going there.

I have a couple of alts on there, but they are only lowbies - My mains is on chamber of aspects.

For the horde!

dataDave
06-01-2011, 10:46 AM
I've been all over the place. My favourite has to be Al'Akir, and if we're talking about being with RL friends then it has to be Ghostlands.

eastyy
06-01-2011, 12:26 PM
Why do people always mention servers I've played on before long after I've started on a new one? :'(

Currently on Magtheridon (I always go to a 'New Players' realm when I start anew). Horde, obviously.

thats where i am to

Garny
06-01-2011, 01:48 PM
Randoms are just a complete pain in the arse right now. 40 minute wait, and you end up with a group that hasnt got a clue what so ever. Done 3-4 heroic instance runs with my guild last night died once, was my own fault trying a short cut :)

People with no enchants on gear i can forgive a bit etc, but dieing again and again on the same boss from the same attack without learning really gets on my tits. You know full well what you are doing, but the others just dont get it or click at all :s

I like the new harder instances myself as Lich was a real bore after a few runs, and gives it more of a small raid epic feeling. Cant wait for next week when we move onto raiding and ill be past all this hassle of randoms. That is until i decied to lvl my Shaman or DK from 80 :scared:

Silvergun X
06-01-2011, 04:48 PM
Randoms are just a complete pain in the arse right now. 40 minute wait, and you end up with a group that hasnt got a clue what so ever. Done 3-4 heroic instance runs with my guild last night died once, was my own fault trying a short cut :)

People with no enchants on gear i can forgive a bit etc, but dieing again and again on the same boss from the same attack without learning really gets on my tits. You know full well what you are doing, but the others just dont get it or click at all :s

I like the new harder instances myself as Lich was a real bore after a few runs, and gives it more of a small raid epic feeling. Cant wait for next week when we move onto raiding and ill be past all this hassle of randoms. That is until i decied to lvl my Shaman or DK from 80 :scared:My guild attempted doing Bastion of Twilight last night. I won't be trying that again in a hurry. :)

Give Baradin Hold a try, it's a nice, easy introduction to raiding.

Number45
06-01-2011, 06:34 PM
I'm currently avoiding tanking. Iffy connection and being on-call aren't conducive to a smooth tanking experience. :(


My mains is on chamber of aspects.
Haha, that was where I was last time out! >_<

Garny
07-01-2011, 02:12 PM
My guild attempted doing Bastion of Twilight last night. I won't be trying that again in a hurry. :)

Give Baradin Hold a try, it's a nice, easy introduction to raiding.

10 or 25 man Bastion? Think we are going for 10 first. Always a good way to get better gear, then move on to 25's. Mind you, looking at the new Heroics it wouldnt suprise me if normal 10 is as hard as nails.

Done BT and Hyjal back in BC, so i cant see it being any harder than those before they got nerfed (3-4 weeks of wiping on archie) :scared:

Silvergun X
07-01-2011, 10:31 PM
10 or 25 man Bastion? Think we are going for 10 first. Always a good way to get better gear, then move on to 25's. Mind you, looking at the new Heroics it wouldnt suprise me if normal 10 is as hard as nails.

Done BT and Hyjal back in BC, so i cant see it being any harder than those before they got nerfed (3-4 weeks of wiping on archie) :scared:We didn't pass the first boss of Bastion of Twilight. :( 10 man, very difficult.

Baradin Hold can now be done with ease though. :)

FreelancePolice
08-01-2011, 06:07 PM
I've been levelling my proffessions. Alchemy's only really started to be worth it now I'm past 400. The Philiosopher stone trinket is nice and I can actually make a little cash (after outlaying so much!)

dataDave
11-01-2011, 11:09 AM
I'm on jewel crafting and engineering, initially jewel crafting and mining, and levelling profs is a NIGHTMARE when a new expansion launches. I've done 40k gold down engineering to get to 525 and then I stopped playing before being able to get a Chaos Orb for my goggles. :(

Silvergun X
12-01-2011, 12:18 PM
My only levelled spec is Tailoring which is once again useless unless you just plan on crafting Embersilk bags and selling them on the AH.

It's pretty hard to make any money from it outside of that.

Number45
13-01-2011, 03:53 PM
I'm levelling Tailoring/Enchanting with my Mage, mainly because they level together quite well. I'll probably drop Tailoring when I get higher up, maybe for Alchemy.

Levelling this Mage newly at the moment, as a break from the stresses of tanking randoms. It's so much more relaxing. <3

With that said, I got Hot Streak the other day. It's so horribly RNG it's just not funny! >_<

Shez
14-01-2011, 11:26 PM
Tell me about it - Mage is my main.

Anyone doing archaeology?

Been hitting it a bit of late, got a nice fossil mount and pet, an epic robe which is rather rank and a useless mirror thing

eastyy
15-01-2011, 01:14 AM
well i am on Magtheridon and my character name is eastyy .....only at about level 14 though

Silvergun X
15-01-2011, 01:53 PM
I'm levelling Tailoring/Enchanting with my Mage, mainly because they level together quite well. I'll probably drop Tailoring when I get higher up, maybe for Alchemy.

Levelling this Mage newly at the moment, as a break from the stresses of tanking randoms. It's so much more relaxing. <3

With that said, I got Hot Streak the other day. It's so horribly RNG it's just not funny! >_<Most of Cata is biased towards ranged DPS right now.

Number45
19-01-2011, 09:05 AM
well i am on Magtheridon and my character name is eastyy .....only at about level 14 though
If I'm on I'll probably be on Tenzin (49 Mage) or Xotar (65 Warrior). My Steam ID (I launch the game from within Steam, so you'll know when I'm playing I think) is the same as my username here. :)

RobRoy
01-04-2011, 02:03 PM
Is it just me or is this expansion a total let down? Can't get motivated to play at all and am very close to cancelling my subscription :(

AaronBekir
01-04-2011, 02:23 PM
I feel the same, ive been a massive WoW player for the last 18 months / 2 years, leader of one of the largest guilds, 10 high end chars. but there is something about this expansion, i can barely muster the desire to play anymore. Used to be on it 2/3 hours a night, now its the same but per week instead!

Hoping it will change soon! Need a lure to get back into it!

Number45
01-04-2011, 02:23 PM
I'm always close to cancelling my subscription (in fact it runs out next week, though I do have a 60 day game card standing by if I want to renew). This is actually the first time in the game that I've hit max level and continued to play (I've geared my Mage through heroics anyway, I'll never go any further than that I don't think).

Currently have him at 85 (With Tail/Ench maxed), working on my Druid (77) and my Warrior is still stuck at 65. I seem to like levelling, both the character and professions, but the game holds little appeal for me ahead of that (and never has).

eastyy
01-04-2011, 03:06 PM
well at level 85 hunter and one level 28 paladin

really enjoying it found it less of a grind then before i do really like the cataclysm quests as there is more story and cutscenes to them then most

RobRoy
01-04-2011, 10:01 PM
Ok ive done it...cancelled....for now!

dataDave
02-04-2011, 06:50 AM
I miss PvP massively. It's definitely the most dramatic form of owning people. In terms of versus ethos it's up there with Street Fighter. When I'm playing it I don't need anything else.

eastyy
02-04-2011, 09:31 AM
not tried pvp yet whats different about that then non pvp ?

Shez
02-04-2011, 10:13 AM
Most of the people from my guild have quit, leaves me and a couple of other people on our own - I'd renewed for 3 months just before they stopped playing as well.

I've completed the frostbitten achievement, that's how bored I have been :)

This exp has been very hit and miss - I don't really know what it is, but it's been sorely lacking in something.

dataDave
02-04-2011, 11:12 AM
not tried pvp yet whats different about that then non pvp ?

Skill.

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dataDave
02-04-2011, 11:17 AM
I don't know how people can get bored, you only need two other regulars for 3v3 arena. In my opinion that's where the meat is.

FreelancePolice
08-04-2011, 08:21 AM
After 6 years of playing this on and off, I finally hit a level cap the other day. I'm still playing and my biggest draw is weirdly, making money on the AH. I love checking prices and posting my stock. Also not done many of the cata dungeons at all so I've got those to do.

The guild I'm in is huge, fun and always has stuff going on so there's plenty for me to do at 85. I'm currently trying things like BGs which I never did before. Fun :)

dataDave
08-04-2011, 08:42 AM
BG is crack. Pure crack.

Especially when you have the best possible PvP gear in every slot.

FreelancePolice
08-04-2011, 09:46 AM
I think I'm a long way off that mate. Still not sure whether to respec my shadow to Disc. Disc sounds like much more of a mind **** for the people you're playing against.

dataDave
08-04-2011, 10:34 AM
Yeah it is. It's fun to play as well. You're basically a healer tank in PvP.

eastyy
05-02-2012, 04:23 PM
looking for a good guild to join in magtheridon ( i think its called) not played in a while and now back