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BaudAttitude
17-03-2009, 07:02 AM
Let me preface this by saying that I'm not looking for legal advice here. If anyone has any anecdotes to share that seem pertinent, I wouldn't mind hearing them, but mostly this is just a post because this is the only forum I actively participate in and it's not really a topic I can bring up at work without getting looked at funny.

My mother's from Glasgow, as is her entire family. She moved to the US in the 1960s but has quite refused to take US citizenship; this is something of a point of pride with her.

When I was born, in the 1970s, citizenship only passed down via British fathers, so I've been an American all my life.

Apparently, at some point in the last 30-mumble years, the rules changed, the UK government no longer considers women second-class citizens, and all it will take for me to claim dual citizenship is to fill out a form, find a couple of character witnesses, and, oh yes, pay about 500 pounds application fee, non-refundable if there's any problem. :)

I found out about this last week, no idea when the rules changed.

I'm a bit hesitant to do it while I'm still in school, since I'm getting Federal aid and the last thing I want the US government to do is to say "Oh, look, you're Britain's problem, take up your education with them", so this is sort of a long term thing.

AND, I honestly don't have any practical use for dual citizenship other than, well, it would be an easy explanation for the next waitress that looked at me funny when I asked for mayo with my fries.

Chips, I mean. Damnit.

But, there's just a touch of built up annoyance about the whole thing where I didn't get it automatically because it happened to be my mother. I won't deny that.

So, anyone gone through this or know anyone who has? If you happen to have a story like "oh, yeah, my buddy did this and HM Revenue came after him for 20 years of back taxes", that would be good to know about in advance, sort of thing. :)

Richard.John
17-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Embrace it and you will receive the best passport in the world, in my opinion, and also an open door to the whole of the EU.

fishbowlhead
17-03-2009, 08:55 AM
Well it would certainly be handy for you to sort out one day. And i wouldn't worry about anyone coming after you for back taxes etc as you've been working living in america and are subject to there laws.

And as richard john said itle open up the whole EU for you. Go for it!

Dirty Sanchez
17-03-2009, 09:25 AM
Mayo and Fries = Belgian, most certainly not British.

funkydan
17-03-2009, 09:45 AM
Mayo and Fries = Belgian, most certainly not British.

Yeah man, they f*cking drown them in that sh*t! :D

Paulos G
17-03-2009, 09:47 AM
I first heard about that from some Dutch friends. It is rather tasty. If you add a bit of ketchup to the mayo you get a kind of prawn cocktail thing going on.

QualityChimp
17-03-2009, 09:49 AM
There's a bizarre sense of needing to have some history for a lot of Americans, I find.

I've met several Americans that claim that they're Irish because their ancestors used to live in Ireland and they've visited Dublin once.

Going somewhere once doesn't make you from there!

Does Neil Armstrong say "Oh yeah, I'm from The Moon."? :)

You're lucky enough to have a genuine claim, so go for it!

I don't think there's any tax implications as you don't actually live here, but I can see the advantages of having a Euro passport.

Why not get it sorted then organise a Eurotrip soon after? You'll spend more time in the cities than in the airport security.

Daragon
17-03-2009, 09:52 AM
Sounds like a bum deal to me that does mate. £500 or EU access? Take the money and run, FAR AWAY!

buster_broon
17-03-2009, 09:58 AM
My mother's from Glasgow, as is her entire family. She moved to the US in the 1960s but has quite refused to take US citizenship; this is something of a point of pride with her.

I asked for mayo with my fries.

Chips, I mean. Damnit.

firstly your mum sounds acers - i'm from Glasgow as well

Get yourself a deep fried pizza and prove your Scottish heritage :wub:

and another to point outus Brits dont do the whole mayo thing, personally i thought it was the Dutch moreso than the Belgians - but when i was in Amsterdam i had it and it was nice

but Dual nationality sounds like a good thing

dataDave
17-03-2009, 10:12 AM
Get yourself a deep fried pizza and prove your Scottish heritage :wub:

LOL! And here's me thinking it was my grandad being a dickhead deep frying pizzas all this time!! He still deep fries everything ffs...

Supergoal
17-03-2009, 10:25 AM
I first heard about that from some Dutch friends. It is rather tasty. If you add a bit of ketchup to the mayo you get a kind of prawn cocktail thing going on.

I do that with bacon butties. Tis lovely indeedy.:)

Richard.John
17-03-2009, 10:42 AM
French fries and mayo are nice but real British chips can only go with salt and vinegar, in my opinion. Curry sauce is tasty too....LOL

Supergoal
17-03-2009, 11:37 AM
You can't beat a tray of chips from the chippy draped with gravy..I could go back home just for that.

Paulos G
17-03-2009, 11:49 AM
On the rare occasion that I have KFC I always buy a large side of gravy just for the chips.

Goldenballs
17-03-2009, 12:01 PM
When I went to McDonalds when I was younger I used to mix the BBQ sauce and Mayo into a lovely sticky mixture. They don't do mayo anymore though :thumbd:

abigsmurf
17-03-2009, 12:06 PM
On the rare occasion that I have KFC I always buy a large side of gravy just for the chips.

KFC chips are horrible though, the big downer to going there. Easily the worst fries of any fast food place. Makes bargain buckets a pain because so many people leave the chips. They dip nice in the bbq beans though

Kongster
17-03-2009, 12:25 PM
The North of England is where you'll find real fish and chips. And Pies, too.

I find it quite irritating when Americans call crisps....chips lol.

Paulos G
17-03-2009, 12:32 PM
KFC chips are horrible though, the big downer to going there. Easily the worst fries of any fast food place.

Which is why I go for the large side of gravy! It makes them almost palatable.

spagmasterswift
17-03-2009, 12:39 PM
I remember taking the fries back to the counter in Burger Kang saying there was something wrong with them - think it was when they switched to 'king fries' or something - horrible things. McD pwnz on fries tbh.

Richard.John
17-03-2009, 12:41 PM
The North of England is where you'll find real fish and chips. And Pies, too.

I find it quite irritating when Americans call crisps....chips lol.

Globally then, more call them chips than crisps. You can't fight it...:s

buster_broon
17-03-2009, 12:44 PM
The North of England is where you'll find real fish and chips. And Pies, too.

i would disagree with that to an extent

any sea-side town has lovely proper fish supper, all around the coast of the UK

Kongster
17-03-2009, 12:45 PM
Globally then, more call them chips than crisps. You can't fight it...:s

I know and it comes down to the fact that American English is the de facto standard :(

Richard.John
17-03-2009, 12:49 PM
Well, there are more of them so it's understandable.

fuse
17-03-2009, 12:51 PM
i would disagree with that to an extent

any sea-side town has lovely proper fish supper, all around the coast of the UK
Exactly what I was gonna post, bunk buddy

buster_broon
17-03-2009, 12:55 PM
Exactly what I was gonna post, bunk buddy

:wub:

bunk is really missing the b and a silent sp :)

funkydan
17-03-2009, 01:02 PM
Buster, you need to change your name on here to buster_spoon! :lol:

Paulos G
17-03-2009, 01:23 PM
Sea-side towns do indeed do super fish 'n' chips. Also, I prefer BK fries to those you get at McD's.

funkydan
17-03-2009, 01:46 PM
I don't like McD's fries as they are so coated in salt that they are disgusting. I prefer KFC fries for the reason that salt is supplied separately.

KFC fries + KFC gravy = heaven in my mouth! :thumb:

Supergoal
17-03-2009, 01:50 PM
Here's an idea. Make some toast, spread some mixed ketchup and mayo on each side, fry up some bacon, slap that on, then pour on some brown HP sauce on top of the bacon to add some spice.

Tastes great, but watch out for indigestion.

ChrisF
17-03-2009, 02:30 PM
pay about 500 pounds application fee, non-refundable if there's any problem. :)

You could probably make that back in benefits in a day or two, no problems. Come one, come all! :thumb:

spagmasterswift
17-03-2009, 04:02 PM
Also, I prefer BK fries to those you get at McD's.

Serious? BK fries have no po ta to in them though...

Also, does anybody have that LotR gif?

Paulos G
17-03-2009, 04:05 PM
Serious?

As a heart attack.

funkydan
17-03-2009, 04:32 PM
Serious? BK fries have no po ta to in them though...

Yes I am serious, I hate all that salt on the McD's fries - they are disgusting dude! They maybe made out of the finest potatoes known to man, but you can't taste ANYTHING but the salt :s

spagmasterswift
17-03-2009, 04:35 PM
Does the fear of finding spit (or worse) in your food stop you from asking for fries with no salt?

funkydan
17-03-2009, 05:18 PM
Perhaps, but I've seen how they make the fries - once they're cooked, they are covered in salt, so every batch of fries is tainted. If I did ask them to make a salt free batch (which I do think should be an option), I'm sure they'd just suck all the salt off of a salty batch and then give them to me - bastards!

Anyway, the finest chips/fries are the ones served in the Chiquito's Mexican restaurants - christ they are good, especially when dipped in their BBQ sauce, or just sour cream! :thumb:

taurusnipple
17-03-2009, 10:31 PM
There's a bizarre sense of needing to have some history for a lot of Americans, I find.

I've met several Americans that claim that they're Irish because their ancestors used to live in Ireland and they've visited Dublin once.

Going somewhere once doesn't make you from there!

Does Neil Armstrong say "Oh yeah, I'm from The Moon."? :)



Brilliant! This is so much the truth! God, how many times have I heard this crap from the yank's? Especially today of all days!

BaudAttitude
18-03-2009, 06:58 AM
Thanks everyone. Seriously. I think I have enough people saying "Just get it over with!" that I'm going to start on the paperwork.

And the mayo on fries thing, that I'm going to blame on Mom, who's definitely not Belgian though I'm going to ask her where she picked it up next time I see her. :)

Richard.John
18-03-2009, 07:27 AM
Why has your mother not taken US citizenship? I would assume it would make things easier as even though she has been living in America since the 60s, on paper she is still a foreigner. Anyway, I will mind my own business. LOL

BaudAttitude
18-03-2009, 08:33 AM
Ah, yes, well, you see, even after 40+ years of living here, going to school, being married, so on and so forth, she still more or less divides the world as follows:

1) Scots
2) Barbarians*





* She kind of likes the French.

Eps
18-03-2009, 08:41 AM
Brilliant! This is so much the truth! God, how many times have I heard this crap from the yank's? Especially today of all days!

YES! True to the nth power. Jesus. And they reckon everyone in the Republic eats corned beef all the time and all.

BaudAttitude: I can relate; I seem to have found myself settling down with a nice American lass, so in a while I'm going to be facing the reverse dilemma :ph34r:

EvilBoris
18-03-2009, 11:43 AM
I believe having. British passport is quite a coup so it definately seems worth it plus I imagine you could get a job as a spy or something

S_rank
19-03-2009, 09:15 PM
There's a bizarre sense of needing to have some history for a lot of Americans, I find.

I've met several Americans that claim that they're Irish because their ancestors used to live in Ireland and they've visited Dublin once.

Going somewhere once doesn't make you from there!

Does Neil Armstrong say "Oh yeah, I'm from The Moon."? :)

You're lucky enough to have a genuine claim, so go for it!

I don't think there's any tax implications as you don't actually live here, but I can see the advantages of having a Euro passport.

Why not get it sorted then organise a Eurotrip soon after? You'll spend more time in the cities than in the airport security.


I have a totally different view on this matter surely it is about genetics the only people who are American are the native American people .

wakka
20-03-2009, 12:56 AM
It can't just be about genetics, otherwise where do we draw the line? There has been movement of people for millions of years. Culturally speaking, most Americans are to all intents and purposes American, so long as their lineage in America can be traced back far enough.

Supergoal
20-03-2009, 10:21 AM
It can't just be about genetics, otherwise where do we draw the line? There has been movement of people for millions of years. Culturally speaking, most Americans are to all intents and purposes American, so long as their lineage in America can be traced back far enough.

Tis a tricky thing to just say you are from X so you cannot be Y.

Personally I could never imagine changing my nationality. But it depends doesn't it. One friend of mine is 100% Japanese by birth, but he had to change his nationality to work for the U.S government. For obvious reasons. I like the idea of duel citizenship, but not every country does it.

Mr_Pie
20-04-2009, 12:34 PM
I'm planning to acquire another passport at some point... could be pretty useful.

MisterBubbles
20-04-2009, 04:20 PM
your mother knows a thing or two about the world and she aint wrong on the 1st 2 points,get yourself a passport and come over and get yourself a deep fried mars bar and a bottle of bucky,welcome to the clan mate