United Kingdom V: Son of a beach

[MartyG]

To be honest, it's just me being flippant about the Tories out of sheer despair at their ineptness. It feels like we have a side-arm of Trumps Administration they're so woeful.

It's not particularly helpful misrepresenting goings on then, because that simply undermines the point you're trying to make - if they're being inept, you don't need to invent things ala The Daily Mail.

[Lebowski]

Whats more alarming is the government saying where not eligible to join the EU ppe scheme despite the European union saying where still in the eu therefore we can but we keep saying no.

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-14/uk-missed-three-chances-to-join-eu-scheme-to-bulk-buy-protective-equipment/

it stinks of political posturing and putting lives at risk to just prove some misguided politcal stance of us not needing the EU.

[Brad]

[MartyG]

Not entirely sure what that graph is representing without context.

The official figures for COVID-19 deaths week of 3rd-9th total 3294 (786 previous week) - these are the hospital deaths that are announced daily (reports earlier today showed another 10-12% are not accounted for in those figures. that chart would suggest nearer 40%). 2019 recorded deaths for same period were around 10,000, so if I'm reading that right, there was a total of about 16,000 deaths week ending 3rd April

(okay, yep, official figures are 16,387 total deaths for that week meaning 20.1% of deaths were COVID-19 releated officially meaning an increase of 61.8% compared to last year). Figures here in spreadsheet for the morbidly curious: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulat...nglandandwales

Edit - yeah. missed a day so not a massive increase compared to previous days in infections or tested numbers - the trend line is still rising tho. It's actually ...

778 new deaths, 5252 new cases (people tested though, 11,879 - percentage of positives of those tested 44.21%).



Which is more in line with numbers tested, it's not really ramping up - I can't see the 100,000 a day target being hit in the next two weeks.

[Hirst]

That graph is confusing until you see the "excess over" bit. I thought people were coming back to life for the months prior.

[Dogg Thang]

That’s the next stage of this outbreak.

[Asura]

Thing is, the graphs aren't as useful as people think - because what do they actually show? If the media publishes a graph with that line going down, it's going to be a diasaster. People will start campaigning to end the lockdown and that's just gonna drive the number back up.

Realistically, what's the endgame here? Everyone stays indoors until there's a vaccine?

[Dogg Thang]

Thing is, the graphs aren't as useful as people think - because what do they actually show?

Usually they tell you on the graph.

[MartyG]

Thing is, the graphs aren't as useful as people think - because what do they actually show? If the media publishes a graph with that line going down, it's going to be a diasaster. People will start campaigning to end the lockdown and that's just gonna drive the number back up.

Realistically, what's the endgame here? Everyone stays indoors until there's a vaccine?

Pretty much, alternatives being able to measure what percentage of the population has already been infected so that you can guarantee infections won't go exponential, or daily infections rate gets closer to zero. The charts show that an exponential rise has been avoided, so distancing is working, the infections, whilst rising are remaining fairly linear (which is what you want to see if not a decline).

We should be grateful that the endgame isn't being decided by these people as it is in the US.



Because. experts

[Neon Ignition]

I love the Mayor of NY atm, hope he keeps giving Trump the finger

[Super Grover]

It’ll be interesting to see what Raab says on Thursday concerning the lockdown and how much longer it will go on for.

I’ve read comments that a predicted 3 week extension is what is expected to be announced. That roughly aligns us to France after Macron’s announcement yesterday.

Does that sound a safe assumption, given what we know at present?

[Mayhem]

Because. experts

[Neon Ignition]

If I can credit the UK Government with one thing, it's whoever made the genius idea of having Mark Strong voice their Coronavirus ads. So soothing

[teddymeow]

If I can credit the UK Government with one thing, it's whoever made the genius idea of having Mark Strong voice their Coronavirus ads. So soothing

It would be better if the background music was him song "Take Me Home, Country Roads" like he does in Kingsman 2.

[Asura]