I was quite surprised to see this staring me in the face in Sainsburys.
Easiest £15 I ever spent, top series that one.
Easiest £15 I ever spent, top series that one.
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The DAWN UHD BD set isn't made from a print, it's made from the original camera negs (wherever possible). That's the original film that ran through the camera on the day of the shoo. So you can disregard any poorer quality versions that might have been released before, since it's not the same source.Originally posted by QualityChimp View Post
The Argento version is made from an interpositive (due to its edit history), which is the next best thing. There was no need to use an element as far away from the negative as a print for any of the three versions. It's extremely rare for prints to be used for home video transfers - they're really only ever used if the better sources have been seriously damaged or lost.
I'm 99% sure this is the first time the neg has been used for any home video version.Last edited by Lyris; 17-11-2020, 02:15.Comment
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Wow, thanks @Lyris! Very informative!
EDIT: Here's a nice review of the set and an interview with the Encoder, David Mackenzie.
This isn’t the first time Dawn... has been resurrected on BD, or even 4K BD. Did you look at previous releases for comparison?
Honestly, not really, because they were made in such a different time and from different elements. This is the first time the film has been transferred from the original camera negative; that is to say, the exact film that ran through the camera on the day of the shoot, and not a downstream copy of it. The previous BD releases will have been made using some type of hi-def video telecine, probably from an interpositive film element, and were subjected to the kind of grain reduction processing that was seen as a good idea at the time – in other words, quite a different process to scanning the original negative to 4K data and keeping it natural with all of the detail intact.
For the Argento cut of the film, Second Sight accessed the same master that ESC in France used for its UHD Blu-ray [released in 2019]. Both post facilities involved – Final Frame and Fidelity in Motion – did some additional work on that version.
Having worked on both the Blu-ray and 4K releases, were there challenges that were unique to either format with this film?
From a video encoding perspective, each format has its own issues that need working around. A 4K scan from a 35mm camera neg has a lot of detail in it, and downscaling this to 1080p for the standard BD needs to be done in a way that doesn't stress the compression. Even the best encoders will show artefacts if you feed them an image with too much high-frequency detail, due to the sheer amount of approximation and data reduction necessary to fit a film on to a consumer format – rather than a server with 16 hard disks. So the downscaling has to be tuned in a way that gives a picture that's both detailed and free from obvious compression artefacts. Dawn... has all its bonuses on a fourth BD, so BDs 1-3 max out the available video bitrate.
For UHD BD, bit-budgeting – calculating the average bitrates for all elements to fit on the disc – is very different. Thanks to UHD BD's maximum video bitrate, which is more than double that of standard BD, you can overshoot the disc capacity much more easily. So with the UHD BD, there was more time needed to adjust compression parameters to make the most of the disc space.Last edited by QualityChimp; 17-11-2020, 07:54.Comment
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Todays new Blu-Ray arrival
The Arrow 2K restoration of Versus
Love this movie & looking forward to seeing how the restoration looks
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[MENTION=7037]Soundwave[/MENTION]
No. ****ing. Way!!!
I've been praying for a decent Blu-ray release of this for yeeeeeeeears!!
Azumi next please, Arrow. Then Sky High (not the Disney one...)Last edited by teddymeow; 01-12-2020, 17:01.Comment
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Lol it certainly isOriginally posted by QualityChimp View Post
Totally bonkers in the action stakes
Love it
Lol well your wish has been answered at lastOriginally posted by teddymeow View Post
It also has a restoration of the 2004 versus Ultimate with the extra footage
Going to enjoy watching them both
It's £17.99 on Amazon but showing as release on the 7th
No idea how Zavvi shipped it so early lol
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Tonights slice of 70s cop drama from kino Lorber
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I get there eventually, looking forward to watching this.
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Todays new Blu-Ray arrival the Manga re-release of Wicked City & Demon City
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Had a few new movies for Christmas but these 2 from the in-laws probably rank as my best arrival
Love these movies so much
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Nice. Some classics in there. His work would really benefit from the 4K restorations. But what about full UHD releases?Originally posted by teddymeow View PostComment
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No sign of a UK release though ... I wonder if Criterion don’t hold the rights to his films outside of the US? Lovely set though.Comment
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UK release is due April.
It is a rights thing.Comment
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