PCs and Steam: Thread 01

[dataDave]

For general questing it's going to be fine no doubt - but then you get jumped and killed by some total slacker which is going to make you want to throw your pad through a wall.

Thinking about it you could possibly bind the four face action buttons to various shoulder button modifiers. Take the A-button...

A: Skill 1

L1 + A: Skill 2
L2 + A: Skill 3
R1 + A: Skill 4
R2 + A: Skill 5

L1&R1 + A: Skill 6
L1&L2 + A: Skill 7
L1&R2 + A: Skill 8
L2&R1 + A: Skill 9
L2&R2 + A: Skill 10
R1&R2 + A: Skill 11

L1&L2&R1 + A: Skill 12
L1&L2&R2 + A: Skill 13
L1&R1&R2 + A: Skill 14
L2&R1&R2 + A: Skill 15

L1&L2&R1&R2 + A: Skill 16

16 x 4 = 64 total available binds. It's possible! You've have to be an absolute ninja, mind.

[dataDave]

I actually want to try this now.

[Digfox]

Yea, I don't think it would ever be utilised for the competitive side of WoW but more for the casual play.

But I think there are so many issues with WoW UI that would need to be sorted before you could properly implement joypad controls. The Elder Scrolls Online does it brilliantly. On PC you have the two different interfaces which you can switch between. The joypad interface is basically the same as the console versions. No functionality lost.

That said TESO is a game in the vein of the old Guild Wars where you can only select your 5 skills + Ult for the main and off bars. This means you never have more than you 12 skills + 2 attacks + block/dodge to worry about. You have so many skills in WoW in comparison (even if it's less now) that it would have to be streamlined in some way.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-05-05-halo-2-anniversary-arrives-on-steam-and-xbox-game-pass-for-pc-next-week

On a very controller friendly note - Halo 2: Anniversary Edition arrives on PC next week

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2019-09-27-gpu-power-ladder-all-graphics-cards-tested

Digital Foundry updates their GPU ranking chart, nice that the GTX1080 still sits in the Tier 2 area

[MartyG]

You can still game perfectly well on PC with a GTX970, so long as you're not expecting 4K Ultra. My GTX1080 was struggling with 4K stuff when I bought it new, so my expectations of gaming at 4K now haven't changed - 1080P ultra gaming at well over 60 FPS is a doddle with that card and you can pick these up from £350 (although the price of GFX cards seems to be on the rise at the moment).

[Digfox]

Yea, GPU hardware has definitely been remaining relevant longer for a while now. The days of regular GPU upgrades has gone.

I'm in their tier 3 and doing fine, although I'm consciously moving away from PC gaming. I'm not buying (many) new PC games and only really wedded to TESO on PC. Dropping from 1440p to 1080p made the downgrade from my Nvidia 1080 to 1070 pretty unnoticeable.

Although the negative with some of these super expensive GPUs is that if you are budget conscious you definitely get to a point where a console will run the games better that your PC, at a cheaper price point. If the XSX and PS5 are really Nvidia 2080 equivalents then that point is coming soon for many more people. In 'better' times that didn't really happen. Hence all the Youtube-'potato masher' $250 PCs outpacing PS4s and XBOs easily.

[Neon Ignition]

Grand Theft Auto V will be the next free game on Epic Store

[Cepp]

Grand Theft Auto V will be the next free game on Epic Store

Cmon mate, include a source. I didn't believe that at first!

https://www.techradar.com/news/gta-5-on-pc-is-free-from-the-epic-games-store-and-yours-to-keep-forever

I wonder how much money that cost Epic.

[Digfox]

I wonder how much money that cost Epic.

An interesting question, although it may not be huge, in that there are benefits to both parties.

RDR2 was exclusive to EGS and their own Rockstar Games Launcher for one month before it hit Steam. And GTA V likely makes most of its revenue through MTX. Also 2K did a deal to have Borderlands 3 exclusive for 6-months so the groundwork was also set with another part of T2.

RDR2 & GTA V are/were also on Game Pass too which is also another indicator that MTX-revenue is more important at this point.

[MartyG]

Cmon mate, include a source. I didn't believe that at first!

https://www.techradar.com/news/gta-5-on-pc-is-free-from-the-epic-games-store-and-yours-to-keep-forever

I wonder how much money that cost Epic.

I wouldn't expect too much - GTAV is ancient and pretty much everyone who wanted to buy it already has. What this might do is boost some of the lucrative online shark money for Rockstar by getting some additional players onboard who wouldn't have otherwised bothered. It was on Game Pass a while back too, so I suspect that's the strategy here.

Edit: So yeah, pretty much what Digfox said prior to me

[wakka]

You would think everyone who wants it already has it, yet it’s consistently in the charts. I have no idea who these people are who are buying it. It’s mental.

[Cepp]

An interesting question, although it may not be huge, in that there are benefits to both parties.

RDR2 was exclusive to EGS and their own Rockstar Games Launcher for one month before it hit Steam. And GTA V likely makes most of its revenue through MTX. Also 2K did a deal to have Borderlands 3 exclusive for 6-months so the groundwork was also set with another part of T2.

RDR2 & GTA V are/were also on Game Pass too which is also another indicator that MTX-revenue is more important at this point.

I wouldn't expect too much - GTAV is ancient and pretty much everyone who wanted to buy it already has. What this might do is boost some of the lucrative online shark money for Rockstar by getting some additional players onboard who wouldn't have otherwised bothered. It was on Game Pass a while back too, so I suspect that's the strategy here.

Edit: So yeah, pretty much what Digfox said prior to me

That's true, I can only imagine the amount of money they're making from the online part of it.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-05-20-new-serious-sam-4-gameplay-shows-thousands-of-enemies-swarming-the-battlefield

Serious Sam 4 rears its head again aiming for release this year but will only be for PC and some weird thing no-ones heard of called Stadia. Next-Gen consoles will see it but not till 2021 at the earliest due to a deal with Stadia.

[Cepp]

Civ VI is free on the Epic game store this week!

https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/product/sid-meiers-civilization-vi/home

The last game I played was V which I really enjoyed. Looking forward to giving this a shot.