Several updates but they all amount to the same thing, naval gazing as nothing actually changes.
We were supposed to be leaving in 72 hours
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Several updates but they all amount to the same thing, naval gazing as nothing actually changes.
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In other news...
The DUP have opposed the stance of the ERG and said that delaying Brexit by a further year would be better than agreeing May's Deal
Apparently May's hard Brexit rivals were asked directly on Sunday if they'd support her deal if she resigned, presumably they still said no
Meanwhile, as an aside, the EU's MEP's have approved the phenomenally stupid new copyright law that attempts to exert far more control than is possibleComment
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A few reasons, I guess.Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
Firstly, he's an Eton boy, part of the same clubs that produced Cameron. I bet there are a bunch of "you scratch my back" favours he's able to call in from that.
But secondly, and this is the bit that is key - he is perceived to have done a good job as mayor of London. People disliked him as a personality, but it seems the general consensus is that he either did pretty well, or he didn't achieve much... But there isn't the perception that he did badly. This is important as the UK is so London-centric. I mean the London mayoral race makes national news and the mayor frequently appears on national television, despite the position being totally irrelevent to anyone outside of commuter-distance to London - though admittedly I believe that's ~25% of the UK population.
Lastly though, he's also a personality. He's been on TV for years; he was a long-time panelist on HIGNFY, people know him; he's also teflon coated. Nothing sticks to him. He's made some bizarre comments since he became foreign secretary. He's like Trump in this respect; in an era of scandal (left-field example; take the James Gunn thing) he's somewhat untouchable, whereas most politicians can still go down for saying something daft in 1985.Comment
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Labour will finally be supporting an amendment tomorrow that plans to ensure any agreed withdrawal agreement must go to a second referendum for ratification from the public. This is a step up from before where it applied to specific cases, May can ignore this but it none the less begins to pave a path to trying to ensure a referendum happens in any outcome.
Another submitted plan is one acting as a safeguard that rules out No Deal by establishing MP's favour revoking A50 over it as a last resort. Again, May can ignore it though.
Bercow has his work cut out though as nearly twenty amendments have been posted by MP's and most completely ignore reality.Comment
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Seemingly balanced people I've had business meetings with are now sharing infographics (with lies on) made by a Facebook group that is promoting civil war if we don't leave. (group is "hard Brexit or civil war"). WtfComment
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They’d be classed as terrorists if their skin wasn’t gammon coloured.Originally posted by charlesr View PostComment
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There's a chasm of difference between being a keyboard warrior and taking up arms against fellow country men. Given the support for Farage's walk, we already see how successful that would be.Originally posted by charlesr View PostComment
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Oh please let’s hang Farrage, and I sincerely mean that.Originally posted by MartyG View PostComment
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Captain Brexit: Civil Keyboard War
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I wish people would stop giving Farage time of day / interviews etc. He's irrelevant nowComment
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If May had pursued a longer extension the EU was favouring 31 March 2020
Meanwhile, the 5.8m votes for the A50 Revoke petition will be debated on 01 April but Government has already formally rejected the petition.Comment
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True. And Victorian throwback Mogg gets far too much air time as well. For a back bencher he gets an impressive amount of TV time.Originally posted by charlesr View Post
I wish people would stop giving Farage time of day / interviews etc. He's irrelevant nowComment
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A list of the proposals put forward for Indicative Voting and there's a lot of wasted breath in the selection for Bercow to sift through:
01 - The Labour Plan
Customs Union, Close Alignment with the Single Market, Matching EU rights and protections, participation in EU agencies and funding programmes, agreement on future security arrangements
02 - Common Market 2.0
Membership of EFTA, participation in the single market, comprehensive customs arrangement
03 - Confirmatory Public Vote
Requirement for a Second Referendum to the public before any deal is agreed by Parliament and actioned upon
04 - Customs Union
Requirement for a Customs Union to be part of any withdrawal agreement
05 - Malthouse Compromise Plan A
May's Deal with the Backstop replaced
06 - Revoke Article 50
For a vote on No Deal to be held if no withdrawal agreement has been implemented within two days of the Brexit deadline
07 - Revocation Instead of No Deal
Similar to the above but makes revoking A50 an automatic process if no withdrawal agreement is in place within four days of the Brexit deadline
08 - New Customs Union
To implement a trade agreement that includes a customs union with the EU
09 - EEA/EFTA without Customs Union
As the title of it describes
10 - No Deal
To leave the EU on 12 April without a Deal
11 - Unilateral Right of Exit from Backstop
May's Deal with the UK having the ability to exit the Backstop at any time of its choosing
12 - Consent of Devolved Institutions
That the UK cannot leave the UK without the permission of the Welsh and Scottish assembly's
13 - Contingent Preferential Arrangements
That the Government must seek a preferred trade arrangement with the EU in case the withdrawal agreement doesn't pass
14 - Contingent Reciprocal Arrangements
For the Government to at least reciprocate the arrangements put in place by the EU to manage the immediate period after Brexit in case the withdrawal agreement doesn't pass
15 - Respect of the Referendum Result
That the House must reaffirm it will adhere to the outcome of the 2016 referendum
Honestly, for some of these any MP's behind them should lost their jobs thanks to the sheer staggering stupidity of thinking behind them. I'll definitely call it wrong but to me the best ones that seem likely to be called are 03, 04, 06 and maybe 09. The rest are either really stupid or already repeatedly ruled out by the EUComment
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Ahead of the Indicative Votes, Donald Tusk has decided to drop all remaining pretence and to further knee-cap May by calling on the UK to act on the 'increasing majority for Remain'
“Let me make one personal remark to the members of this parliament. Before the European council, I said that we should be open to a long extension if the UK wishes to rethink its Brexit strategy, which would of course mean the UK’s participation in the European parliament elections. And then there were voices saying that this would be harmful or inconvenient to some of you.
Let me be clear: such thinking is unacceptable. You cannot betray the 6 million people who signed the petition to revoke article 50, the 1 million people who marched for a people’s vote, or the increasing majority of people who want to remain in the European Union”Comment
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