Rumbles that Hulu is going to be folded into Disney+
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Whilst there is an issue surrounding actors and their performance related pay vs the switch to streaming, Christopher Nolan continues his 2020 mission to show himself to be a ***** as he bites the hand that feeds him over Warner Bros' decision to make its 2021 slate available via streaming as well in order to boost HBO Max and due to the rolling heavy impact of Coronavirus on cinemas. He has slammed the company stating they are treating filmmakers and actors poorly by making the decision and that such individuals now find themselves working for the worlds worst streaming service rather than a theatrical studio.Comment
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As much as he might well be whatever is in those stars, he also might not be wrong in this case. It seems Warners gave studios just a half hour heads up that this was happening and Nolan is not the only one unhappy. We'll probably never know the details of the deals but it would be naive to think it doesn't have huge implications for everyone involved - that's not to say it's all negative (covid cinemas can't be bringing much money in) but it's definitely something that will provoke a reaction if people weren't consulted.Comment
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I've read that Gadot was given a few million to compensate for how WW84's release will mean that she wouldn't receive the original expected earnings that are derived via theatrical profits but that the stars with similar contracts for the 2021 haven't been offered or heard anything. Anyone in that kind of position is right to feel annoyed by the development as it's very sloppy of Warners to have not laid that groundwork with people they depend on and will presumably need for any future projects they hope to make. Nolan himself though has been whiny bugger throughout most of this year and if anything is the case study of what happens when his way is followed, Warners already bowed to his preference and the result was Tenet tanked which no doubt resulted in a similar level of issues. He has no alternative either, his line so far has mostly been that studios should just continue releasing films to mostly closed cinemas (which would change none of the issues this decision impacts) or presumably unrealistically indefinitely pin every project back till the desired outcome can be hit (which could be years if ever).
Ideally Warners does need to quickly work backwards and patch obvious issues the streaming embracement causes. Admittedly I may be way off here, but he's been COVID dismissive and egostistical all year so I'm auto-doubtful he actually cares less about the real issues the move causes and is still just hurting that cinema isn't in the game when it suits him still.Comment
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Yeah, I'm not saying you're wrong about him at all. Just that this story really isn't about him and him being whiny has no bearing on whether what's happened here is right or wrong. He shouldn't even be getting the article space on it.
This one event aside, I have often wondered if we're going to see a bunch of lawsuits in the future over streaming deals. Take Disney+ for example. They are now the exclusive home to a huge amount of content which previously would have renewed deals every few years in different forms across separate territories globally. Some people seem to think that Disney+ legacy content is essentially free for them. It's not. Not by a long shot because there clauses written into contracts to prevent companies even selling their own content to themselves on the cheap... and yet that exact thing still happens and years later we get lawsuits when an actor realises how much they lost as a result. I reckon now that many distributers are setting up their own exclusive streaming homes, the revenues that are lost as a result will start to hit some people in the pocket shortly.Comment
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It wouldn't surprise me if a few cases spring up by those who lose out but are less expectant of future projects being likely. It's doubtful say someone in The Eternals would sue as they'd be mindful of still being cast in sequels but were he not the nicest man in Hollywood Reeves could be tempted for lost earnings in Matrix 4 if he didn't care to return. I wouldn't be surprised if everyone's clauses missed this as a possibility. Really they should get a percentage based on box office and figures for streaming views somehow calculated within say the typical box office window. They'd still come out with less but it should be proportionate given the film and studio will be making less as well due to outside issues.Comment
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This is where it gets tricky though. Disney, just to use one example, might make less as a studio and they might make less as a distributor, but Disney overall is building a brand with Disney+. So it's a win for the parent company while everyone else involved makes less. And in some cases, possibly much less. That's where it gets very messy. And it's not just actors - other people have a stake too. So it could be that, rather than a few individual cases, there is one huge test case that changes how it's all done.Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostComment
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The whole thing needs recalculating. Streaming is going to be a bigger factor post-COVID but at the same time it's proven it's nowhere near being a cinema replacement yet. Likewise though Cinema is going to be a million miles away from the Endgame days of old. Hopefully it means we start getting more mid-tier budgeted titles. I miss having things like action movies... not superhero action or adventure action... just a well budgeted action film.Comment
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Yeah, I completely agree. There has been a real all or nothing approach with movies over the last decade - massive budgets, massive marketing, massive expectations. And as a result, most of the movies we get are sequels or remakes essentially because they need the brand awareness. Hard to imagine something like The Goonies being made now. It would be great to have more variety.
The one exception of course has been in horror, which thrives on lower budget movies making lots of cash.
I feel cinemas are going to have to work incredibly hard to get their numbers up and they probably will rely more on the big names than ever. It's likely on those streaming platforms where we'll see the smaller movies, the risks. But who knows where it will go from here.Comment
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First trailer for Cobra Kai: Season 03
Sony has paid $1.18bn to acquire CrunchyRoll
Juts 5 years on from the originals end HBO is planning to reboot True Blood
And Robert and Rebecca Rodriguez are working on another new version of Zorro, this time with the character being female and set in the present day where Zorro isn't a swashbuckling swordsman but instead a contemporary underground artist.Comment
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The Muppet's Christmas Carol is to be restored to its true glory as Disney reveals that a 4K restoration is to take place on the film which will also see the Love is Gone full scene restored, a cut that made zero sense in the first place.Comment
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Multiple regions will see STAR added to Disney+ introducing mature content to the service.
They've also commissioned It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia: Season 15, Season 16, Season 17 and Season 18... and also rescued the previously cancelled Kardashians reality show.
Disney+ is also moving forward with the Alien series set on Earth
Additionally, two new Star Wars series have been commissioned. The first is Star Wars: Asohka and the second is effectively Star Wars: The New RepublicComment
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They announced something crazy like 10 Star Wars shows and a load of Marvel shows and also a movie directed by Patty Jenkins. I love my Star Wars and I’m adoring The Mandalorian but, like, can we maybe just also not have everything be either Star Wars or Marvel?
A renowned yet humble artist on Twitter put it well -
Last edited by Dogg Thang; 11-12-2020, 06:24.Comment
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It's also like that time your best mate made you listen to Queen's A Day at the Races on repeat and you ended up hating Queen.Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
Or like when Disney tried to make forty Star Wars movies and everyone started hating Star Wars.Comment
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