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    Originally posted by Finsbury Girl View Post
    First episode of The Old Man - Jeff Bridges great, John Lithgow suitably menacing, 2 gorgeous dogs. Some nitpicks around the plot but overall looking forward to next episodes!
    Every time i think oh that looks good its on bloomin HULA Our flag means death, Peacemaker and now The old Man, not sure why Disney is waiting so long to bring hula to the uk they have rolled it out in places in Europe so surely they could bring it to the UK already.
    Last edited by Lebowski; 22-07-2022, 12:57.

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      I remember I was never mad about The Umbrella Academy, but given we did eventually finish the first two seasons, we gave the third a go. First impressions: pretty bad. The first episode begins with some jarringly bad CG and a ridiculous sequence that goes on too long before we're told that it was a hallucination. Elliot Page's transition is one of the few things that's handled with any dignity, as storylines get dafter (not in a good way) while stakes get higher, and plot holes and individual motives all start colliding in messy and unconvincing ways. While I don't think the end was good, I do think this is probably as good a place as any to leave it.

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        Quite enjoyed the start of the new series of Sanditon on Friday ITV.

        Harmless costume drama that is simply good in all departments but there is already some evidence of the threatened wokey clean up of the elements which helped make the first series a 'little' more raunchy than usual.

        The brother and sister possibly 'incestuous' storyline appears to have been re-written making them step-brother and step-sister instead. I thought I must have just got that wrong in the first series but twice the script in the first episode of the new series, awkwardly, felt the need to make clear they were step-siblings not blood related. That was too suspicious to go unnoticed.

        I'm guessing such a storyline in an otherwise 'nice' British costume drama would be too much for a general middle American audience to take.
        Last edited by fallenangle; 25-07-2022, 11:06. Reason: typo

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          Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
          Every time i think oh that looks good its on bloomin HULA Our flag means death, Peacemaker and now The old Man, not sure why Disney is waiting so long to bring hula to the uk they have rolled it out in places in Europe so surely they could bring it to the UK already.
          Bummer, it's on Disney+ down here in Oz. First 3 episodes down, again some dumb plot stuff but overall it's still pretty good.

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            I did a few more eps of Alice in Borderlands (Netflix), which I'm enjoying.
            I would say it's best not to overthink it as if you do, you start wondering who is setting up all these elaborate tests without being spotted.

            My friend said it was better than Squid Game (Netflix), but I don't think it is, personally.
            However, if you liked that and want more, this is a good alternative.
            Amazing to think these foreign shows and films are becoming normal thanks to Netflix, whereas you'd have to go out of your way for a DVD or one-off cinema showing or possibly a Channel 4 season.

            We finished all of Taskmaster (All4) and the Champion of Champions episode.

            Started Kim's Convenience (Netflix) but I'm really not enjoying it.
            He's a prick and don't enjoy watching him.
            First episode sees him telling people he knows if they're gay or not, to avoid giving a gay discount he promised when challenged about being homophobic.
            Second episode has him jealous of his daughter's photography skills. He belittles her and her photos, then starts selling them off, which means she can't display them at an exhibition. This is "made right" by buying her a tripod with the profits he made.
            I mean, she's a photography student, but yeah she doesn't have a tripod and she doesn't have any say how the money from her work is spent.

            Someone likened him to Homer, but I really disagreed. Homer has never claimed he's a better musician than Lisa or sold her music for profit, instead he says he doesn't totally get it, but supports her anyway.

            On our Marvel catchup, we're onto Loki (Disney+), which I think is a brilliant series.
            Just finished the third episode which finishes with that excellent "one-take" section as they try to flee an exploding planet.

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              Originally posted by fallenangle View Post
              Looking forward to the start of the second series of The Great with Elle Fanning playing Catherine the Great which begins on C4 27th July.

              The first series was great fun and often hilarious, think Blackadder III with a big budget, so if the second is even half as good it'll be worth watching.

              This preview of the first series here will give you a good idea of whether or not its going to be your cup of tea:-

              When you said Blackadder i thought id really had to give this a go, the cast and the writing make this show its a fantastic satire on the curelty of the time, the emperor of Russia Peter is a brilliant Idiot but also a dangerous idiot, hes such a damaged individual and really well written. Catherine's character development is brilliantly done to she really is brought down to earth with a bump. its pretty hard to find season 1 in the UK, but if you sign up to a free trial of starplayz via amazon prime you get 7 days to binge the first season which is what we did and then canceled it.

              We've also been watching Better Call Saul it just gets better and better as the seasons go on its a real fall form grace piece and shows how the main charcter jimmy Mcgill tunrs into the slimeball laywer Saul Goodman. The scams and hustles Saul pulls and the way he gets mixed up in the criminal underworld are fantastic to watch.

              As a piece of TV where we know how Saul's story ends its fantastic to see the development and rise to power of some of Breaking Bad's main players. Amazingly it keeps you guessing and on the edge of your seat for a lot of its runtime too despite it being a piece of tv where you know the fate of a lot of its cast. If you fancy a crime drama with brilliantly written characters then id highly recommend giving this a watch. you kind of need to have watched breaking bad to get a lot of whats going on but thats two fantastic shows for the price of one.
              Last edited by Lebowski; 28-07-2022, 13:52.

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                Originally posted by Lebowski View Post
                When you said Blackadder i thought id really had to give this a go, the cast and the writing make this show its a fantastic satire on the curelty of the time, the emperor of Russia Peter is a brilliant Idiot but also a dangerous idiot, hes such a damaged individual and really well written. Catherine's character development is brilliantly done to she really is brought down to earth with a bump. its pretty hard to find season 1 in the UK, but if you sign up to a free trial of starplayz via amazon prime you get 7 days to binge the first season which is what we did and then canceled it.
                The first episode of the second series last night on C4 did not disappoint. Still sometimes brutal, funny, witty and beautifully played by a cast clearly having fun with the material. There was a particularly amusing little vignette early on involving a severed head being used as a football. The end of that scene made me laugh out loud.

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                  So yeah, last episode of Neighbours. No spoilers! I've never watched the show with any regularity but seen few episodes here and there over the years as my wife used to watch semi-religiously. I was a very young teenager when Kylie and Guy were on the show so knew those early characters well. Last night I knew almost none of the characters apart from the old timers, Toady, Karl and Susan, Paul and somehow Harold (who I thought shook off this mortal coil about 20 years ago). The characters I did know who came back (some more than others) they did a reasonable job with. Shout out to the

                  Mike (Guy Pierce) and Jane storyline that was the main part of the show and was pretty well done with a suitably happy ending

                  . Not enough Joe Mangel ; didn't see Bouncer . Some cameos are literally 30 seconds.

                  Overall a nice way to end the show.

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                    I watched Neighbours from the start but had a hiatus in the mid-90s when it was just on at the wrong time for me and I had other more important things to do. But I came back to it in 2001 and me and my father used to watch it together at lunch time and I continued with that right up to the present after he died.

                    That is the thing about Neighbours and why it is so sad to see it going; its been part of pop culture in the UK for almost four decades. I think it still had the legs to continue. What are C5 going to do with the money 'saved'? News and reality programmes most likely, as if we need any more of those.

                    Let's remember that despite its many pantomime level storylines and dodgy performances over the years it has been a workplace for some consistently good core regulars (Stefan Dennis, Alan Fletcher, Jackie Woodburne, Ryan Moloney etc etc) but also the training ground for an extraordinary number of unquestionably good actors and performers who've gone on to even bigger things

                    There's been no other soap like it and probably won't be ever again, at least not with that same sort of world wide impact.

                    Neighbours' alumni: Russel Crowe, Alan Dale, Margot Robbie, Guy Pearce, Liam and Chris Hemsworth, Jesse Spenser, Kylie and Jason, Nat. Imbruglia, Delta Goodrem, Holly Valance......................................... the list goes on. It is extraordinary.

                    One often missed in the lists you can find left off other lists is Rahda Mitchell - she been the main character in a Woody Allen film but better known for Pitch Black (the first Riddick film), Olympus and London Has Fallen, Silent Hill, Finding Neverland and numerous other supporting roles in some good US movies.

                    Can't end without mentioning Ian Smith, not just an actor but writer and producer of other shows who has returned to his role in Neighbours as Harold Bishop three times (maybe more) and again for the last couple of weeks. Eighty-four years old now and he's done it seamlessly - absolute legend.

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                    Fitting send off for this iconic soap yesterday; the final hour long episode had many of the most memorable characters turn up at Ramsay St at the same time. There were plenty of little online or filmed cameos from those not there in person too, like Holly Valance and Nat. Imbruglia,

                    Guy Pearce didn't just turn up he was given a final, significant storyline as well. Also loved seeing Susan Kennedy's nemesis Izzy Hoyland (Natalie Bassingthwaighte) return to create some more havok for the Kennedy family. I'd forgotten just how good she is as an actress.
                    Last edited by fallenangle; 30-07-2022, 01:45.

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                      I watched the first two episodes of the Netflix Resident Evil show. I don’t think I’ll be watching any further.

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                        Originally posted by fallenangle View Post
                        Neighbours
                        Thank you for posting this; it's such an easy target for mockery (heck, I've done plenty of it myself) but these days I have so much more time for people appreciating the show for exactly what it was, and enjoying it sincerely. From a very young age I remember the closest thing we ever had to a family ritual being my dad being home from work at 5:15 sharp, dinner on the table at 5:30, and then all of us sitting down to watch Neighbours. Like many others, I lapsed on my watching as life and living arrangements changed, but I grew up with these characters and spent thousands of very happy hours in their company.

                        I watched the last week or so's worth of episodes for some added context, and without saying too much I'm glad I did. There's no way it could've been everything to everyone, but I think they did a reasonable job drawing a line under things and that it did a great job of serving up a great big group hug to everyone who's ever cared about it, no matter which era that covered. Unsurprisingly, a lot of the promised guest appearances didn't amount to much, but I am fine with that. It turned to the right characters to deliver the parting shots, and in general was very wholesome and lovely. Thanks, Neighbours.

                        Two additional things: couldn't really let this conversation go by without mentioning that a few years back we visited Australia for a family wedding, and as soon as we knew we'd have some time in Melbourne I began doing the research and making the plans. My mum and sister bottled it on the day, but there was nothing that could've stopped me; I did the tour, went to Ramsay St (pic), visited some other sets (pic), and got to meet Kym Valentine (pic), who was an absolute pleasure to spend some time with.

                        The other - this may be a uniquely me thing, but having never really watched the show on 5 before, it was very weird having adverts where Alan Fletcher was talking directly to the audience about a competition for UK viewers to enter. Probably due to when I was watching and my limited understanding of how TV shows travelled at the time, Neighbours was always an Australian show for Australians that we just got a small window into. Having Karl Kennedy breaking the fourth wall, asking me to mail in a competition response to a PO box address in Derby felt very weird.

                        ... aaaaand normal service resumes.

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                          OMG you actually met Kym Valentine! Great pic, so jealous.

                          No BS she was one of my long time Neighbours' 'crushes'. Libby Kennedy was a perfect example of the attractive girl next door who in real life you never actually get to live next door to.

                          Sad about how her life was blighted by some serious health problems and other issues with the consequence that her time on Neighbours was prematurely cut short.

                          A shot outside Grease Monkeys and not Harold's Cafe - what were you thinking?
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                            Did you know that Chris Lowe of the Pet Shop Boys was also in Neighbours as a camio back in the 80s. Not sure if Neil Tennant was in it as well. My memory is very vague about that.

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                              I'd forgotten that but in one of the accompanying documentaries "Neighbours Made Me A Star" they featured some of the celebrities with walk on parts and I think they were mentioned.

                              Others included the late Clive James playing a postman which was amusing particularly as him, Barry Humphries (Dame Edna/Sir Les Patterson), Skippy the bush kangaroo and, dare I mention him: Rolf Harris were the only well known Australian celebrities on UK TV until Neighbours.

                              There was the WW2 based The Sullivans before Neighbours, notable in relation to Neighbours for it having the first appearance of Kylie on UK TV in a very small part. It also featured the under-appreciated Vivian Grey as Ida Jessup, the local busy body who would refine that role later when she went on to play the prim, mean hearted, tetchy Nell Mangel in Neighbours.

                              But despite The Sullivans being a very unusual soap in that a lot of it was aimed at a male audience by featuring plenty of war time action it never achieved anything like the popularity in the UK that Neighbours was to have.

                              On the subject of Nell Mangel - the ghastly oil painting of her, by Helen Daniels (Ann Haddy) the other matriarchal figure in the early days of Neighbours, was one of the amusing little reminders of those two characters and the late actresses who played them. That painting kept on reappearing on screen over the years right up to the last episode. There was even a funny incident recently involving it where it dropped off the wall when her grandson confessed to his mother, Mrs Mangel's daughter Jane, that he was a male 'escort'.

                              The ghost of Nell Mangel lived on. There's a slightly spooky coincidence too - when Vivian Gray, who was actually English, retired she came back here and eventually died in 2016. The date: the 29th of July exactly six years to the day before that last episode of Neighbours was aired in the UK.
                              Last edited by fallenangle; 31-07-2022, 12:13. Reason: typos

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                                I remember the The Sullivans but was way too young to watch it. I remember it being on ITV during the afternoon around 1pm or so after Rainbow or Button Moon. I also remember it being very brown looking. As I said though, I was a kid at the time. Probably about 6 or 7 years old. I'm 46 now.
                                Last edited by Yakumo; 31-07-2022, 15:14.

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