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Originally posted by QualityChimp View PostCowabunga!
Loved the Turtles back in the day, but like the other Bay movies, the general hate towards them have put me off seeing them, although I hear the second one isn't sooo bad.
I actually really, really enjoyed them both
Sure they are dumb Bay movies but as far as dumb Bay movies go these are up there with the best
The action is glorious the Turtles look fantastic & they gel together well
It didn't ruin my childhood in the slightest & in fact was what I would class as a fun action packed reboot
It to me was great & I regularly re-watch them
Go in with an open mind & I think you'll be pleasantly surprised
Neil
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Originally posted by Soundwave View PostSure they are dumb Bay movies but as far as dumb Bay movies go these are up there with the bestl
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Originally posted by Dogg Thang View PostPeople just miss the smart sophisticated thoughtful and slow-brewing observations that the cartoon show about pizza-loving cartoon turtles fighting a ninja guy and his rhino and whatever else the other thing is henchmen offered.
Originally posted by Atticus View Post[MENTION=7037]Soundwave[/MENTION] ^^^ Yep, I thought they were surprisingly good fun ^^^
The ride down the mountain in the snow in the first movie is still awesome
Neil
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Originally posted by Yakumo View PostWhy bother. It will never be what it was. Can't they come up with anything original anymore?
There was a period in the 80s where these brands hit something of an apex - Turtles, Transformers, etc. and this even persisted into the 90s with some shows like Power Rangers. It worked because those shows were based upon toy lines. Toy manufacturers financed the shows, and kids watched them on Saturday mornings because there wasn't much alternative. This lack of on-demand choice meant that as a kid, you might watch Pirates of Dark Water or She-Ra even if you didn't like it all that much, because they were sandwiched between shows you liked.
Today, with on-demand entertainment, the economy of entertainment is totally different, and that model doesn't work anymore. Toy companies aren't as interested in financing TV shows, so the shows don't get made. It makes more sense to make new shows based on old properties because they feed on the existing userbase for those shows, and the kids of those people too.
On the one hand, the new laws which tightened up wholesale advertising to kids through cartoons probably improved the quality of kids' TV (in terms of the amount of educational programming) but they reduced the viability of coming up with new properties, so we're now in this perpetual loop. Case in point; He-Man had the original show in the 80s, a sequel in the 90s, a remake in the 2000s and a new She-Ra has just been released. Thundercats had the original show in the later 80s, a reimagining in the 2010s and a new rework is currently on-the-go. Transformers had the original, G2 in the 90s, Beast Wars in the 00s, the movies a few years later.
Turtles is just the next one on the wheel.
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Originally posted by Asura View PostToday, with on-demand entertainment, the economy of entertainment is totally different, and that model doesn't work anymore. Toy companies aren't as interested in financing TV shows, so the shows don't get made. It makes more sense to make new shows based on old properties because they feed on the existing userbase for those shows, and the kids of those people too.
On the one hand, the new laws which tightened up wholesale advertising to kids through cartoons probably improved the quality of kids' TV (in terms of the amount of educational programming) but they reduced the viability of coming up with new properties, so we're now in this perpetual loop. Case in point; He-Man had the original show in the 80s, a sequel in the 90s, a remake in the 2000s and a new She-Ra has just been released. Thundercats had the original show in the later 80s, a reimagining in the 2010s and a new rework is currently on-the-go. Transformers had the original, G2 in the 90s, Beast Wars in the 00s, the movies a few years later.
Turtles is just the next one on the wheel.
It is a very different marketplace for children's content creators. But here's one certainty: the success or failure of a show/film/whatever is rarely dictated by what the old fans think and almost always comes down to what the new fans think. So why rely on an old brand at all? Because getting a film/TV show/whatever off the ground first requires selling to funders/distributors/broadcasters and those individual people will often buy into the known brand or nostalgia. Often not because they think it will work great for an audience just like them but simply because they have their own nostalgia attached. So it's often only after that sale is made that people get serious about tailoring something for a new audience. That's why we'll see over and over that an old favourite is being brought back but then gets changed to the point where it loses everything people liked about it to begin with.
I'm speaking generally of course because the Turtles were always stupid.
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