Europe IV: The Final Hour

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/14/eu-brexit-transition-period-boris-johnson

The EU are said to be drafting up their own proposal and request to the EU to extend the transition period beyond 2020

[charlesr]

I’m picturing you joining the Lib Dems, getting to know Jo, asking her out, getting rejected, and then having your brother go to all future Lib Dem meetings in your place

Laughing so hard

[CMcK]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-boris-johnson

The EU are said to be drafting up their own proposal and request to the EU to extend the transition period beyond 2020

They shouldn’t bother with that. It’ll be a hard Brexit come this time next year. Got to keep those rich backers that are betting on the economy tanking happy.

[prinnysquad]

Spaffer was up here yesterday. Gloating like a sex-crazed slug who’d just found new leaves to nosh.

There was once a time that a Tory feared to tread up North. The people of the North East are only going to suffer under Brexit and that spunk-haired moron. Idiots.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/15/labour-leadership-race-begins-as-senior-figures-back-rebecca-long-bailey

The Corbyn wing of the Labour is backing Rebecca Long-Bailey as it places all Labour loss blame on Brexit and seeks a similar figure to replace him. Morons.

[Asura]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ca-long-bailey

The Corbyn wing of the Labour is backing Rebecca Long-Bailey as it places all Labour loss blame on Brexit and seeks a similar figure to replace him. Morons.

I've seen them on Twitter; the fighting between the two halves of the party is flaring up. It wouldn't surprise me if they split, because there are clearly two very opposed factions of the party, and neither will entertain a middleground.

In the end, it all comes down to practicality for me. You have to win elections to do anything. I think Labour should present someone who is more of a centrist, with a mindset to fixing some of the immediate problems with a leftist mindset, and intending to take the country further to the left over successive parliament terms, rather than trying to do everything in one go.

Momentum won't tolerate this, though. They want a full-on leftist, and they see anything less as a person with a Labour tie who bleeds blue.

[Cepp]

Well that's the thing isn't it. "Winning the argument" doesn't mean much when you aren't in power.

Just copy the SNP and find someone on par with Nicola Sturgeon... that alone would be a massive step up.

[monel]

Is this Thatcherism part 2 coming up? I can't leave the country... bit worried... Edit - part 3,forgot about Blair.

[MartyG]

Momentum won't tolerate this, though. They want a full-on leftist, and they see anything less as a person with a Labour tie who bleeds blue.

And if they get what they want, Labour won't win next time either.

I'm surprised Corbyn even wants to stay on as leader of Labour at this point, he's going to get mauled at PMQs.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/dec/16/boris-johnson-new-mps-parliament-labour-arrive-at-westminster-as-boris-johnson-prepares-mini-reshuffle-live-news

Sucks to be the BBC. At the weekend the Tories accused the Beeb of being anti-Conservative and confirmed plans to review various aspects of the BBC including whether to savage its funding by decriminalising the license fee.

Today Labour accuses the BBC of being anti-Labour saying it played its part in the defeat of Labour in the GE.

[Lebowski]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ffle-live-news

Sucks to be the BBC. At the weekend the Tories accused the Beeb of being anti-Conservative and confirmed plans to review various aspects of the BBC including whether to savage its funding by decriminalising the license fee.

Today Labour accuses the BBC of being anti-Labour saying it played its part in the defeat of Labour in the GE.

I wouldn't be surprised if its all a big show, "you champion us this election then we threaten to cut your funding like we always do but never do, nobody will think your in our pockets then"

Laura Kunsberg has regularly been found to be anything other than impartial, she was super quick to jump on story's like the fake hospital punch up and the fake Leeds nurse and report them as fact without even checking sources or credibility.

News Night regularly has plants that are presented as members of the public and then turn out to be Tory councilors or donators with really strong links to the party. You regularly get stuff on their that goes unchallenged like the idiot complaining about how he's earning 80 Grand a year and that's not a high Salary. not to mention how they seem to champion red tab newspaper slurs by creating graphics of Corbyn in redsquare



A study conducted by the Media Reform Coalition and published by the Birkbeck University found that the the BBC has consistently given more time and prominence to Corbyn’s critics than his supporters. In giving his critics twice as much airtime the broadcaster is not criticizing Corbyn directly and is therefore free of accountability.

[MartyG]

Choosing to believe it's the media's fault that Labour lost and carrying on down the same road as Corbyn with a different leader is a sure fire way of them losing the next GE too.

[Zaki]

Choosing to believe it's the media's fault that Labour lost and carrying on down the same road as Corbyn with a different leader is a sure fire way of them losing the next GE too.

Well, it certainly didn't help.

[Dogg Thang]

Well, it certainly didn't help.

I was just going to post those exact words.

[MartyG]

Channel 4 substituted Johnson with a block of ice, was riducled for hiding in a fridge, lamblasted for stealing a reporter's phone and chastised for not showing up for Andrew Neil. Corbyn got bad press because he was a weak leader, the media coverage wasn't the issue, moreso the man, the fence sitting and the messaging of the wishlist of policies from the 70s.

If the Labour party fail to take proper stock, they're just condeming themselves to further failure down the road, especially if Johnson by some miracle manages to pull a couple of rabbits out of the hat.