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  1. #11
    Nah it was a ps one I used - infact I had used two of them that worked perfectly with it. Maybe try a different mod or check your scart lead? You can output sync on luma as well as a csync mod which really tidys up fine detail; (but you won’t be able to use light gun games with the csync mod).

    Too much brightness in your image sounds like incorrect voltage / lack of resistors in the scart head. Speedy should be able to add some input

    Be careful Leon, you are about to go down an OCD rabbit hole here......

  2. #12
    If the brightness is too high it sounds like you’re using a PS2 SCART lead. PS1 requires 220uF caps on the RGB lines.

  3. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by dvdx2 View Post
    Nah it was a ps one I used - infact I had used two of them that worked perfectly with it. Maybe try a different mod or check your scart lead? You can output sync on luma as well as a csync mod which really tidys up fine detail; (but you won’t be able to use light gun games with the csync mod).
    Quote Originally Posted by speedlolita View Post
    If the brightness is too high it sounds like you’re using a PS2 SCART lead. PS1 requires 220uF caps on the RGB lines.
    The brightness is perfect when the PS1 is connected directly into the LCD, CRT, and also with the OSSC. In fact -- the image looks really clear and sharp.

    I have a normal top quality Scart cable from the PS1 era -- and a modified cable that has a chip in it for 'Csync'.

    This one: https://www.retrogamingcables.co.uk/...ite-sync-CSYNC

    But when I plug either cable into the Framemeister, I get the severe problems that have been recognised by other people. It's definitely a known issue because of the weird clock frequency of the PAL PS1 running NTSC games..




    Quote Originally Posted by dvdx2 View Post
    Be careful Leon, you are about to go down an OCD rabbit hole here......
    Pre-HD machines offer a world of nightmares for people with even the slightest OCD. It's crazy how all sorts of machines have one issue or another.

    I've gradually had mods done to fix all sorts of issues with the machines in my collection, so now I might try and fix this problem with the PS1 and the Framemeister. Maybe I need a 'luma sync' scart cable?

  4. #14
    If that’s the case regarding brightness then the FM appears to be at fault.

    Luma sync won’t fix the frequency issue. You could get the “dual frequency oscillator” mod done to your PlayStation if you require correct PAL timing in addition to NTSC or simply have the PAL crystal swapped to an NTSC one.

  5. #15
    You sure the A/D level isn’t too high on the FM?

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by speedlolita View Post
    or simply have the PAL crystal swapped to an NTSC one.
    I'd be happy with just an NTSC crystal. It would be great to not have to worry about PAL.


    Quote Originally Posted by dvdx2 View Post
    You sure the A/D level isn’t too high on the FM?
    I reset the settings to default and it still has the same issues. But I will investigate further tomorrow.

    I have found two mentions of this problem with the XRGB Mini though -- and they mention that it doesn't like the weird clock frequency. Maybe it's just a case of having to calibrate the XRGB.

    I'm thinking of buying a PS1 Slim with the Csync mod. Maybe the XRGB will prefer a pure Csync signal.

    If I was seeing the same problems with the OSSC, then I'd know for sure it's something to do with the console or Scart cable. But the image looks incredibly good on the OSSC.

    I will also test my XRGB with some other consoles to make sure it's not broken.
    Last edited by Leon Retro; 05-05-2019 at 09:59 PM.

  7. #17
    If you have a cable with a sync stripper in it I don’t think the sync will be any different using sync generated inside the console, they’re both c-sync after all.

  8. #18
    I updated the Framemeister's firmware to the latest version. It's virtually fixed the problem with the PS1. The brightness is just a little bit too high now, so I just lowered it a couple of notches and the black level looks perfect. The image looks really rich and crisp.

    Obviously, the FM was designed primarily for NTSC machines. So it's best to opt for NTSC given a choice. It's a shame that the PS1 ideally needs an NTSC oscillator, but it's not a big issue. I was playing Gunner's Heaven and Harmful Park and didn't notice any problems.

    I have no idea what the latest Firmware has done to improve things, but I'm glad it's made a big difference.

  9. #19
    I decided to properly go through all the Framemeister's options and see what everything does. I know the basics but haven't fiddled around with everything.

    I went into the 'HDMI' options and changed 'Deep_Colour' to 'Auto' and it completely fixed the brightness problem. Went from blacks being a bit too bright/grey to solid black, as it should be.
    Last edited by Leon Retro; 07-05-2019 at 12:24 AM.

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