I think the current estimate is that around 5% of the UK population have been exposed to it. Only another 95% to go.
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The utter disaster going on in America across both densely populated and spaced ones shows more than enough the dangers of not imposing restrictions and how there's absolutely no way that the virus has come close to the vast majority of the population yet, and that's due to one reason only - the lockdown.
It's so out of control that most of the key governments such as China, America, the UK still lie about the death toll figures. They're constantly ignoring the scientific advice and every single move comes down to two things -
1-Put the economy before the people
2-Distract the public from blaming the Government
The official government figures state 284,000 people have had confirmed cases of the virus in the UK, of which 44,000 are recorded as COVID deaths (a known to be wrong figure). That means a whopping 15% of infected cases are dead from it.
The UK population is around 67m, so by the Governments own methodology we can be safe and assured that the virus has widely done the rounds when the death count has passed 10 million UK bodies.
What the UK is basically going through this summer is the deadliest case of wishful thinking in its history. Blatant dismissal of an entire globes worth of evidence showcasing precisely what happens when a deadly pandemic - that with heavier restrictions than are in place now has already cut its way through half a million dead in a few months - is deemed a mere inconvenience that pushing aside to get a trim and a pint will see it just go away. It's not being a downer, it's being completely frustrated that once again our Government and much of the public are proving how utterly useless they are. Arguably the biggest killer at this point isn't the virus, it's the lack of natural selection for the human race that has allowed generations of incompetence to breed.
The Tories can do what they want, like Trump, there is no way of wriggling out of responsibility for the sheer awfulness that is going to hit later this year.
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Originally posted by fishbowlhead View PostThought about cutting the shop itself loose and just keeping the brand going as a delivery service? Wont be long until the gov pulls all support for shops, then your stuck with dead weight you can’t realistically open safely.
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Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View PostI think the current estimate is that around 5% of the UK population have been exposed to it. Only another 95% to go.
A Swedish study found twice as many people had protective T-cells as tested positive for antibodies.
Critically though they don't yet know if there is any lasting immunity.
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Originally posted by Dogg Thang View PostSounds like you’re basically saying that it’s great that it was allowed to run rampant because the dead people can’t now get it. That much is true. The rest sounds like uninformed nonsense. This is not the first pandemic. There is a huge amount of data and strategising based on what experts have learned from them. And the UK and New Zealand are not the only countries. The entire world is being used as examples, looking at the strategies and outcomes from each individual country. And honestly, from someone outside the UK, lets be very clear that what’s happening there is not a great look. There is no upside to how it has been handled in the UK.
Its still been a royal cock up from start to wherever we are now.
Nobody knows how many people have been exposed in the UK, how many have had it with minor symptoms and likely but not definitely now immune or are naturally immune. Without vastly more reliable testing than has been done its all speculation not science.
However we're going to find out in a few weeks time if the experts' disease transmission models are correct. With all the ignoring of the distancing regulations that have been documented over the last two weeks and the official lockdown easement the Covid 19 reported cases and related death spike should already be rising.
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Originally posted by fallenangle View PostNobody knows how many people have been exposed in the UK, how many have had it with minor symptoms and likely but not definitely now immune or are naturally immune. Without vastly more reliable testing than has been done its all speculation not science.
This isn't speculation, it's data based modelling. Absolutely not the same thing.
And given, entirely predictably, that drunk people can't social distance, easing lockdown due to placing economy before health (which is what the goverment is doing), it is inevitably going to lead to upticks in infections, because when viruses have a greater pool of people available to infect, more people get infected - this doesn't require a degree in medicine to understand.Last edited by MartyG; 05-07-2020, 08:29.
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Originally posted by MartyG View PostAnd given, entirely predictably, that drunk people can't social distance, easing lockdown due to placing economy before health (which is what the goverment is doing), it is inevitably going to lead to upticks in infections, because when viruses have a greater pool of people available to infect, more people get infected - this doesn't require a degree in medicine to understand.
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Donald Trump describes ‘victory’ over virus as cases rise; Mexico death toll becomes 5th highest; Australia’s toughest lockdown begins
As Trump declares victory over the rampaging virus and Johnson promotes going out to UK shops in a post-COVID age - The World Health Organisation has announced that yesterday saw over 200,000 new cases globally which is a new record
Chancellor urged to introduce a scheme that has jump-started other countries’ blighted hospitality and retail sectors
And Sunak is pondering about giving the UK people a one off payment to bolster the economy... but naturally the UK folks can't be given cash they have to have vouchers instead. £500 per adult and £250 per child is being thrown around for consideration and you would only be able to use the vouchers if you abandon online shopping and put yourself at risk in person instead. If it happens though don't do what they want and use it at restaurants etc, use it to store up things you need for the Second Wave because when it hits they would revoke the vouchers.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ovid-hit-firms
And Sunak is pondering about giving the UK people a one off payment to bolster the economy... but naturally the UK folks can't be given cash they have to have vouchers instead. £500 per adult and £250 per child is being thrown around for consideration and you would only be able to use the vouchers if you abandon online shopping and put yourself at risk in person instead. If it happens though don't do what they want and use it at restaurants etc, use it to store up things you need for the Second Wave because when it hits they would revoke the vouchers.
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