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    Taito Egret II Lockdown 21 Day Restoration - 'Romeo...done'

    With the UK in lockdown I needed a project to pass the time so decided to attack these two I bought recently. I'd previously restored an Astro City to minty, mint order so thought I'd try my hand at this pair. Apologies if the pics display too large, I use Imgur and didn't want to faff with Photoshop too much. Big thanks to me ol' pal Zaki for the help with these so far, and also to Guy for his help re: the monitors.

    Day 1 - Cab Arrival
    I've seen cabs and indeed Egrets in worse condition, but these certainly aren't too pretty.

    The panels themselves are actually in fairly good nick, no prizes for spotting the odd panel out. A panel from alberto is in order.


    Some more pics of general rust, dodgy player 1 wiring and some odd ripple on the monitor (which would turn out to be monitor coating thankfully!). One of the panels is locked (which I'd later open with a key for an alarm system I had bizarrely), apart from this no locks are included but monitors are generally burn free and display a really nice picture - despite one of the remote boards having rust which affects the V. and H. positions.





    Day 2
    These needed to move today so just before 'proper' lockdown hit these were transferred primarily by me with minimal contact with anyone else *phew. My house is late Victorian, so the doors are not the widest, so things had to be removed. My house is also being renovated so seemed like a good time to throw more stuff into the mix. I removed the chassis' to send to the awesome Grant and took out the tubes to give them a proper polish with Novus 3 to remove the coating on both due to scratches and the ripple.




    Day 3
    Attacked the guts today, carefully removed the JAMMA harness and all connections. Removed the speakers too (not pictured). Took out the power supply and associated gubbins and gave the revoltingly dusty board a clean. I also cleaned the rust off of the the Taito PSU cases, will probably end up plating them and replacing the stickers. Also opened up the PSUs to see inside - not too bad considering.



    Day 4
    It took me a whole (small) bottle of Novus 3, 6 x Novus Polish Mate cloths and all day (around 6-7 hours) but finally cleared the awful ripple off the screen and all of the damaged monitor coating. I haven't yet taken pictures of it polished, but I didn't generally use as much polish as pictured! I found the best technique was to take smaller areas and work in both diagonal strokes and circular motiona (not sure I like how that sounded :eh: :P ). I also took a look at the plug end and the snapped ground. I don't need the ground but will locate another plug end and rewire; luckily my old man is an electrician and is happy to wire this up for me. *Excuse the state of my dining room reflected in the pictures, house is still a work in progress too.


    Day 5
    Decided to take the plunge and remove the illumination panel today, thought I'd attack just one machine first. By carefully snipping off the glue with a pair of needle nose pliers and then using some old plastic cell phone tools I had I managed to get the panel off without a hitch, including keeping all the pegs that were intact, intact. The panel was filthy and you can see where it has gone from white to yellow thanks to all those lovely Asian cigarettes. Truth be told I found it far trickier to remove the aluminium serial plate from the front, due to the bloody double-sided sticky. For the plates I ran a small scalpel blade down the back and then used a flat 3M squeegee to remove the plates. I also removed the handles and did the final strip down of the cab ready to be sent to the painters.


    Day 6
    Not a huge day today. Catalogued all parts and Ziplock bagged. The manual obviously have a great parts list and wiring diagram, but I wanted a visual catalogue I'd numbered myself. Waiting for some spanners that didn't arrive to remove some of the smaller nuts so I can strip out the final couple of parts. Second and final illumination panel removed successfully along with speaker grills. This panel was MUCH tougher to remove. I snapped one of my plastic tools, but used another plastic tool I had, which looks like a guitar pick (pictured), to remove the old glue and the panel without anything cracking. Painter has offered to collect all parts from my front garden to comply to social distancing measures, which is a bonus!

    Day 7
    A full week down and today my two chassis' and PSUs came back from Grant. I've met Grant before a year or so ago and know his work is always stellar, but I must say he has done an AMAZING job. When he told me they looked like new he wasn't joking. After a full wash, recap and replaced remote board pots, along with a couple of adjustments, the first one gives a stunning picture on my freshly polished Tosh tube.


    Day 8
    Busy day today. Attacked the control panels which were utterly disgusting. The pictures are actually after I've given them an initial wipe! Hooked up the second monitor with the second chassis and PSU and after a few tweaks and a R-gain turn down the picture is lovely! Still need to polish and then readjust everything. Received some JST 'samples' ready to mess around with the stock speakers through an external amp. In the evening the painter came round all collected both cabs and all parts from my front garden - social distancing people. Called some platers about the difference in cost between nickel and zinc plating, wow, big difference! So unsure which way to go with the plating as of now.


    Day 9
    Wired up the JST ends to go from mini amp terminals to the Speaker connectors. Hooked up the speakers and they sound great! So no hacking etc. needed. For anyone else interested the sockets are YLR-02V and the pins are BYM-01T-P0.5A.



    Day 10
    Finally got round to polishing the second monitor, only took about 4 hours compared to the first which took double the time! Looks infinitely better, but got through almost 12 Novus polish mate cloths!



    Day 11
    Platers came and collected some of the bits for plating.


    Day 12
    The platers dropped these back for me - wow, big difference! Final bits went off for plating.

    Also I used Emphatic's excellent monitor guide:http://www.emphatic.se/?p=710 to tweak the first MS9 for a fantastic picture.

    Day 13
    NOS illumination panels arrived with superb repro art, courtesy of @Zaki thanks a bundle bud! Meaning I can use my old original pair that I removed as backups, due to some slight yellowing.

    Day 14
    Platers dropped (almost) the final bits back today, all looks lovely as expected. Also received a couple of starters, thought I'd put them in to test the original bulbs for a laugh and lo and behold they worked!


    Day 15
    One of alberto's excellent repro 2P12B panels is on the way. 100 Yen tickers arrived from emphatic and look super snazzy! Buttons arrived from Arcade World. Annoyingly they are out of stock of the correct Egret joystick mounts so went with flat mounts while they restock. Had loads of replacement screws, bolts and wingnuts turn up this week ready to replace the rusted bolts and such on the cab. Painting will be finished next week!
    I also put one of the cleaned and re-plated rotate mechs together to compare to the one that still needs work done.






    Day 16
    Nothing overly exciting tbh. Applied stickers to the service panel. Interestingly you can see just how much damage rust can do on here. Despite being plated there are still echoes of rings that were rust. Cleaned the backs of the monitors. In the third shot you can see the rust that has been removed from the base...a MASSIVE change, even though the picture isn't great. The black stuff is stone chip, applied after the rust was sanded to toughen the surface and prep for repaint. Been talking to Taito this last week and seems the reason I had so much trouble locating certain locks is they keep the parts the same but change the part numbers! :eh: Pondering whether I really want to spend over £300 for all new locks, lock plates and keys? :-o





    Next update will be when the machines have been fully painted, as they are about 1/2 way at the mo. This will then more-or-less be complete as I can start to put everything back

    Day 17
    So purdy...
    Went to check the painter's handywork today. He left the machines in his lockup. It looks AMAZING, the photos don't do it justice. He actually apologised for the inside!? He said the rust was so far reaching that he had to strip it all down, stonechip it and then decided to tiny a primer to match the slightly grey colour of RAL. If you notice the inside is a slightly darker tone than the out. He seemed very concerned, but I told him that I won't be staring at the inside of an empty cabinet! The front frame will be done Friday and he is doing one or two touch ups. The main bases come back tonight. Will start putting back together!






    Day 18 & Day 19 - 'We can rebuild him; we have the technology'
    Pretty much there now, last two days I've been doing the rebuilds. Putting the monitors in when it is you and your fiancee is not the easiest task! Mainly because of the bloody mechanism and where the wires need to sit so they don't get caught between the metal circle brackets. Luckily my partner is super strong from training daily, so we got there in the end I just need to repair two legs on each of the NOS illumination panels so am waiting for some standoffs which will act as replacement legs. After that I can complete the monitor shroud/cover/bezel and apply the final stickers! Apart from the side art of course as I'm getting that repro'ed for a bunch of us using metallic ink and the original printing technique! I'm also awaiting the arrival of the CP dome-headed bolts, as I forgot to order replacements! I've decided to leave the coin mechs out for the mo and the coin chutes. The mechs were badly knackered and I'm using two Optiplex 3010s I've put my own GroovyMAME setup in. Eventually I'll put the mechs and chutes back in, when they get moved into my outside games room, as they are only in my dining room temporarily - I thought leaving off the coin chutes would allow for more space through doors! I initially wired up the GroovyMAME setups a little differently and somewhat neater, but I managed to blow an extension lead (despite the load being more than fine!), so rethought my plans! As of of now the Optiplexs sit inside the PCB door quite comfortably with a mini amp attached on top. Our rescue dog, Mavis, decided to lend a hand too






    Day 20 - remaking the illumination panel pins
    Went to put my illumination panels on, but they wouldn't hold flush as each of the pair missing two pins. I noticed the Egret 2 Illumination Panel pins are roughly M2 size. I had some nylon M2 standoffs...could I just remake them out of these? the reason to remake the pins was simple, I wanted to use a retainer on the back of the illumination panel pins in case I ever needed to change them or they cracked etc. and needed replacing. Making them removable would save the ballache of unsticking glue. So...


    Being very careful (and forgetting to take a 'before' picture) I first tried Gorilla glue (which proved to be ****) to stick two short M2 stands off together to make a longer pin. With the Gorilla glue not working properly I tried Loctite. After leaving the pins to set for an hour I carefully placed the pins on the illumination panel just to get an idea if it would work, it looked like it would. Being super careful I put loctite on one end of the remade pins (the standoffs) and glued them to the broken pin space on the illumination panel. The pins are set at a slight angle, I decided to judge the angle by eye, it seemed to work. In about an hour's time I tried the illumination panel in the bezel and it fit perfectly...I knew I was then on to a winner and the panel would fit flush using retainers. As you can see by the video, everything sits flush and I didn't have to use the new adhesive pads or glue anything in place. *Ignore the bloody rug I threw down to protect the parts


    The retainers were the genius idea of @Zaki, using rubber pinball mini posts.








    Day 21
    Not much to add today, so will let the pictures (and video) do the talking...the repro metallic ink sticker are still under way. That's all for now folks. Massive, massive thanks to @Zaki first and foremost. Thanks to wigsplitta for his help. Cheers to emphatic for his great tuning guide and fab 100 yen stickers and big thanks to corn (UKVac) for his help with advice on removing certain bits and bobs. Final thanks to Flinnster for his help with identifying audio connectors.











    What has been done: June 1st 2020...basically everything from the ground up including new screws, bolts, nuts etc!
    -EVERYTHING has been repainted in Candy White LB9A by a buddy who is a car painter.
    -Bezel and coin slots repainted in colour-matched grey (may be a tad darker, but very close)
    -All (heavy and far reaching!) rust treated and insides sprayed.
    -Holes in the side of one cab completely repaired.
    -Fixed pegs on NOS illumination panels and use retainers to make 'removable' illumination panels i.e. not glued in
    -Most screws and bolts replaced with like for like (most of the original screws, bolts and nuts were badly corroded and rusted)
    -New buttons and sticks for both machines
    -New repro panel bought and populated from alberto
    -Cleaned up original panel - populated
    -Both monitors fully polished and fine tuned using Emphatic's great guide (I highly recommend tuning, the pictures are now amazing!)
    -Both chassis' washed and recapped via Grant
    -Both PSUs recapped via Grant
    -PSU clear Taito label scanned and sent for repro
    -Cleaned most wood (bar the rotate plate - decided to leave that, for now)
    -Cleaned everything else that isn't being re-painted or re-plated
    -Everything re-plated in zinc including PSUs
    -Cleaned, plated and reassembled rotate mechs
    -Cleaned backs of monitors
    -Made up JST-end speaker leads and speakers tested via external amp
    -New starters bought and both bulbs tested
    -GroovyMAME machines re-configured and custom theme edited in Egret pink


    Left to do 1st June 2020:
    -Get instruction glass re-cut
    -Buy/Design instruction space art
    -Buy replacement coin mechs
    -Fix in coin chutes (will be done much later)
    -Apply cab stickers
    -Repro side art 1:1 with original (in progress)
    -Move them to outside games room
    Last edited by Escape-To-88; 02-06-2020, 09:34.
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    #2
    Cool! Love this stuff.

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      #3
      These are going to look so good when you're done with them!

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        #4
        Of all the wrong panels to include, a Windy one is a great result!

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          #5
          Originally posted by fuse View Post
          Of all the wrong panels to include, a Windy one is a great result!
          Indeed Adrian, I might need to....AIR...it out before use. Chortle, chortle.
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            #6
            This will become the best thread on here.

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              #7
              Well, until CAPCOM unleashes his promised Jaguar retrospective or whatever the **** he was wittering on about...

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                #8
                Originally posted by endo View Post
                Well, until CAPCOM unleashes his promised Jaguar retrospective or whatever the **** he was wittering on about...
                I only created this thread to bait him.
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                  #9
                  I love some before-and-after action with these resto threads Looking forward to watching these diamonds emerge.

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                    #10
                    Mini update Day 3 and 4
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                      #11
                      Man, what an excellent way to spend the time!

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Yakumo View Post
                        Man, what an excellent way to spend the time!
                        Aye, indeed! Illumination panel removed today, one left to remove.
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                          #13
                          Amazing. Looking forward to more updates.

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                            #14
                            Following. Lockdown time well spent. Make that Egret II shine.

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                              #15
                              Little Day 6 update.

                              List of things left to do after almost a full week:

                              -Treat all rust and paint everything! I offered to treat all rust but my painting chap offered to throw any fixes in as a bonus for giving him work during this difficult period.
                              -Plate all/most of the steel. This includes the struts, coin reject mech, rotate plate etc. etc. as they are badly tarnished (which can't be fixed which manual polishing) and in most cases rusted too. The platers round the corner from me has offered to do this if I can post it to them.
                              -Buy 2 new 100 yen coin mechs and holders - one of the holders can be salvaged, the other is absolutely battered.
                              -I've ordered some connectors ('samples' ) from JST to try to use the Egret II speakers in a mini amp I'll power from the 12V line of the GroovyMAME's ATX PSU, as initially I'll have to GroovyMAME this as I sold all my boards long ago! Nothing will need to be hacked, just might be a bit of a faff.
                              -Order (or trade the Windy panel for) a new CP from AO (alberto)
                              -Order new sticks and buttons
                              -Order 2 x 100 yen coin stickers from AO (Emphatic)
                              -Order new side arts (probably Muddy/Olly)
                              -Waiting for the chassis' to arrive that Grant completely recapped, gave a full wash and replaced remote board pots.
                              -Remove casters and clean wheels -not possible, even with a hammer drill!
                              -Was planning to lightly sand the MDF rotate board, but looks like the grease has penetrated more than one layer of the MDF so won't be that easy. May have to leave this.
                              -Polish monitor number 2
                              -Pay for two NOS illumination panels set aside for me
                              Er...I'm sure there is some stuff I've missed!
                              Last edited by Escape-To-88; 20-04-2020, 13:27.
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