You're the boss! What games you putting on the Dreamcast Mini?

[dataDave]

Most people believe the second game is superior and, overall, it probably is. It's great fun in 4-player. But the first game is a bit less chaotic and a bit more skillful, so much so that they feel like very different games. I love them both.

Me and my friends preferred the first game, and those were the days when we were looking for anything and everything 4-player. The second game was certainly a lot less technical, as you say, and a lot worse off because of it. It seemed to go full party mode.

[CAPCOM]

Rez,
Shenmue 1 & 2
Power Stone 1 & 2
SNK vs Capcom
Marvel vs Capcom
Streetfighter Alpha 3
Streetfighter 3 - 3rd Strike
Outtrigger
Headhunter
Virtua Tennis 1 & 2
Mr Driller
Jet Set Radio & Jet Set Radio Future (Special edition DC bonus as was meant to come out on DC instead of XBOX)
Gunbird 2
Dead or Alive 2
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Code Veronica
Sega Bass Fishing
House of the Dead 2
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2
Ikaruga
Skies of Arcadia
Daytona USA 2001
Bangai-O
Soul Calibur
Crazy Taxi
MSR
Samba Di Amigo
Phantasy Star Online (Complete with pre broadband dial up modem speeds for authenticity)

[BearBoy]

They should chuck in Propeller Arena as a bonus.

[CAPCOM]

All the original DC games that were either canceled or ported to XBOX due to the relationship with Microsoft but started on DC should also be included...

- Panzer Dragoon Orta
- Crazy Taxi 3
- Toe Jam and Earl III
- Jet Set Radio Future
- SEGA GT 2002
- House of the Dead III
- Outrun
- Otogi I & II
- Gun Valkyrie
- 2K Sports Series

I have probably forgotten a few and some of these might push the original Dreamcast too far...

[Leon Retro]

18 Wheeler
Bangai-O
Border Down
Cannon Spike
Cosmic Smash
Crazy Taxi
Daytona USA 2001
Dead or Alive 2
Ferrari F355 Challenge
House of the Dead 2
Hydro Thunder
Ikaruga
Jet Set Radio
Le Mans 24hr
Mars Matrix
Mr Driller
Neo XYX
Pen Pen Triicelon
Power Stone
Power Stone 2
Propeller Arena
Rez
Sega Rally 2
Sonic Adventure 2
SoulCalibur
Sports Jam
Sturmwind
Tokyo Highway Challenge 2
Under Defeat
Virtual Tennis 2
Zero Gunner 2

These spring to mind as games I'd still want to play.



I'd want this as a nice bonus game.

[CAPCOM]

Oh I remember that one!

It is interesting delving into a parallel universe where the DC existed into 2002 then beyond and was successful earlier to build players and how this would have altered a lot of things...having four major players in the console business was always tricky with one being dominant and harvesting much needed installed base from SEGA. There has been reams and reams of counterfactuals about SEGA over the years as well but it may have created a more balanced ecosystem with four players, SEGA, Nintendo, and SONY plus the emerging Microsoft making it even more competitive and interesting...

I liked the period in the 1990s where we had everybody in the transition from Cartridge to CD, NEC, 3D0, Atari, Nintendo, Sega, Sony, FM Towns, Phillips, Commodore, Apple, Sharp, and others...it was interesting...over ten home hardware manufacturers.

Gaming is just is not as exciting anymore, it went totally corporate with Nintendo being the last vestige of 1980s gaming left nearly, and part of that magic did actually die with the death of arcade conversions like Planet Harrier but the slow erosion of the arcade scene itself as everything was bypassed for the home console scene as they grew more dominant in power and the most potent weapon in SEGA's arsenal was finally eroded...

The Dreamcast was the last true arcade console and this fact is probably why it lives on in the memory of many... just like Sega World.

https://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/14751-segaworld-theme-park-or-arcades-read-first-please/

[Leon Retro]

The best thing about modern gaming is the standards, in general, are higher. So you don't get loads of truly bad games. Even a second rate modern game is a decent quality product.

Old school gaming culture was much more interesting and exciting. Part of that was down to gaming being a new medium, so you had rapid advancement with lots of creativity and innovation. Gaming culture will never be that lively and exhilarating again.

I think one of the reasons why so many people embrace retro gaming, is because they find old school game libraries more interesting, with plenty of games that have charm and gripping gameplay. The fact that everything in the world of gaming was so much different 20+ years ago, means you can go back to old hardware and games and not worry about comparing it to modern stuff.

But with something like a PS2 or PS3, you tend to think "These games are just uglier PS4 games", which takes away from the allure of going back. It's interesting that a lot of PS2 games that stand the test of time pretty well, are those that have old school sensibilities. The games that aimed for realism can feel obsolete; whereas the more abstract style games usually stand up well. The same with the Dreamcast and its library.

[Team Andromeda]

Mine you be

JSR
REZ
Code Veronica
Get Bass
D2
Pen Pen
SEGA Rally 2
HOTD II
RayMan 2
AITD IV
Shenmue 1/II
Virtua Tennis
Crazy Taxi
Sonic Adv
Ecco
Headhunter
Incoming
Red Dog
MSR
DOA 2
SOA
Grandia II
Space Channel 1/2
Blue Stinger
Under Defeat
Sakura Wars 3/4
Seaman
Maken X
F335

Bonus unlockables

Spikers Battle
Strike Fighter
MonkeyBall

[CAPCOM]

I think one of the reasons so many people embrace retro gaming, is because they find old school game libraries more interesting, with plenty of games that have charm and gripping gameplay. The fact that everything in the world of gaming was so much different 20+ years ago, means you can go back to old hardware and games and not worry about comparing it to modern stuff.

But with something like a PS2 or PS3, you tend to think "These games are just uglier PS4 games", which takes away from the allure of going back. It's interesting that a lot of PS2 games that stand the test of time pretty well are those that have old school sensibilities. The games that aimed for realism can feel obsolete. Whereas the more abstract style games usually stand up well. The same with the Dreamcast and its library.

Yeah I totally agree with this especially the last paragraph. Generational change is now non-existent to the naked eye. With no major leaps in technology or formats like the rapidly shifting 1980s and 1990s the last twenty years have been a return in greater graphic and sound fluidity in pursuit of realism and an always-on online functionality...


Then again we had XBAND in the 1990s. Great documentary and running time is over an hour.

Cannot recommend this channel enough. His recent Goldeneye Retrospective was also really well done.

Which made me start to wonder if this title had come out in 1998 or 1999 as a Dreamcast launch title, giving the developers extra time with greater graphics and 4 player support plus online play... it's one of those great what-ifs. Kickstarting the console FPS revolution on 128-bit hardware years ahead of Halo.

Great little documentary and insights on Martin Hollis plus its development at Rare at the time. I keep forgetting they just crammed the multiplayer in with literally months left and did not even tell Nintendo.

[Leon Retro]

MonkeyBall

Seeing it was running on the NAOMI board, it's a shame we didn't get a Dreamcast port. It does seem like Sega did plan the port but changed their mind when they realised the Dreamcast was finished.

Which made me start to wonder if this title had come out in 1998 or 1999 as a Dreamcast launch title, giving the developers extra time with greater graphics and 4 player support plus online play... it's one of those great what-ifs. Kickstarting the console FPS revolution on 128-bit hardware years ahead of Halo.

Yeah, GoldenEye would have really benefited from running on the Dreamcast hardware. What RARE achieved with the N64 was impressive, so imagine what the dev could have done with Dreamcast tech.

[Team Andromeda]

Seeing it was running on the NAOMI board, it's a shame we didn't get a Dreamcast port. It does seem like Sega did plan the port but changed their mind when they realised the Dreamcast was finished.
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It was all but finished, before Nagoshi-san took it to the Cube . I was upset he never brought any of Spike Out games that were running on the NA@MI boards to the DC either

[Asura]

Seeing it was running on the NAOMI board, it's a shame we didn't get a Dreamcast port. It does seem like Sega did plan the port but changed their mind when they realised the Dreamcast was finished.

I had always assumed that Monkey Ball and Gun Valkyrie were both going to be on the DC.

[Leon Retro]

It was all but finished, before Nagoshi-san took it to the Cube . I was upset he never brought any of Spike Out games that were running on the NA@MI boards to the DC either

Scud Race should have been released in '99 -- and then other coin-op ports like Spike/Slash Out games. I guess Sega knew the Dreamcast had flopped by 2000, so they cut back on potential releases. We would have probably got a lot more NAOMI ports had the Dreamcast been successful.

Gun Valkyrie

I'm not sure if much development had been done on the Dreamcast version. The footage shown does look impressive though.