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    My wife is a radiographer and she got an email saying the NHS can't guarantee supplies on any orders because of the lorry driver shortage. This is up to and including drugs, ventilation equipment and syringes.
    Welcome to brexit.

    In 10/15 years we will have UN vehicles in the streets and aid coming in.

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      It’s ok we have our sovereignty back. Whatever that means.

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        Electric car for me soon if this low-ball attempt at a second mortgage doesn't work out.

        But then I'm across the water where we have charge points everywhere. We're so sick of hemorrhaging large amounts of money on petrol. Last month we spent €230 and I don't even commute!

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          Yep. Honestly the cost of a car is a big bugbear of mine. Probably because I'm not a big car person but, over here, the cost of car insurance is insane. Then add petrol, tax and the cost of the car itself (the value of which plummets to nothing in no time). And then there are the things that just happen. We had some transmission thing break and it cost an absolute fortune to replace. With parts being so specific these days, car repairs are usually incredibly expensive and I honestly don't know why one of the companies hasn't created some sort of modular system for their cars to hugely reduce part costs.

          Anyway, cars are just a money pit and not in any way worth that money. And yet necessary because our society has not got its act together to implement better ways.

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            Originally posted by Dogg Thang View Post
            Yep. Honestly the cost of a car is a big bugbear of mine. Probably because I'm not a big car person but, over here, the cost of car insurance is insane. Then add petrol, tax and the cost of the car itself (the value of which plummets to nothing in no time). And then there are the things that just happen. We had some transmission thing break and it cost an absolute fortune to replace. With parts being so specific these days, car repairs are usually incredibly expensive and I honestly don't know why one of the companies hasn't created some sort of modular system for their cars to hugely reduce part costs.
            I'm interested to know how this will pan out for electric cars; repairs, I mean.

            On the one hand, they're even more specialised than petrol cars. On the other hand, in some ways, electric cars are conceptually simpler than petrol cars; like they don't have a gearbox and their transmission is physically simpler (the complex bit is that it's computer-controlled). They don't require a complex mechanism that airates fuel, makes it explode, draws power from that...

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              After nearly five years of not having a car and relying on bicycle, public transport and Drive-now short-term car rentals, foolishly (given this is Denmark and vehicle registration cost is approx 180% the vehicle price) we have bought an PHEV. In all, it's the equivalent of about 50k!! For a fricking Peugeot 3008

              I had some money from my Mum's will and the Drive-now cars are so unreliable (i.e you can't get one when you need one fairly often) and filthy (dog **** on the passenger seat... ) that we bit the bullet.
              It's delivered next Thursday. My last car before we left the UK, was a new Land Rover Discovery. I hope I don't regret buying a French car.

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                I've recently been vaguely considering the idea of getting a car. All I can say so far is that they are mindblowingly expensive compared to practically anything else you might buy (other than a house). Even a **** tier motor like a Fiesta (no offence to anyone who drives a Fiesta but it ain't exactly a Range Rover) is about 20 grand.

                I know that's new prices and the depreciation is massive, so used is cheaper. But still. They are friggin expensive even before you factor in road tax and insurance.

                Not sure what the point of this post is now that I've written it, but yeah.

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                  I think as electric cars get older, it'll probably be that they have more-or-less the same maintenance requirements as petrol cars. They'll gain on some things (less sensors needed, don't need to drop the engine oil out at service) and lose on others (heavier wear on suspension/steering/brake components due to greater weight, batteries having a finite lifespan).

                  For the complexity of petrol engines, they're not something that should frequently need to be dismantled. My current car is 25 years old and has just ticked over 140,000 miles and I doubt the engine has ever been opened up. Some engines are awful though.

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                    After our current car gets beyond worth keeping I'm happy to stick to older cars that cost £5000-ish moving forward, there's so much dead money in younger aged cars it's insane. The shift toward automatics or screen controlled gears annoys me too, I like driving with a manual gear stick.

                    Accident Claim lawyers are going to love it though, imagine the field day they're going to have with adverts saying 'have you tripped and injured yourself on an electric car charging cable on the pavement? You could be due compensation!'

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                      My £1,100 20 year old Celica just passed another MOT. Had some welding done last year on the sills and the suspension components are crusty but it's going good!
                      £270 to insure also. Fun to drive. Cheap enough to run.

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                        The more complex cars get, the more things there are to go wrong.
                        From rain sensors to heated seats.
                        [MENTION=5490]wakka[/MENTION], we've bought our last two cars, but the insane expense of new cars has made us think about lease hire for an electric car because of their cost. Before that, though, we'll run our current ones into the ground!

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                          Originally posted by Cassius_Smoke View Post
                          My wife is a radiographer and she got an email saying the NHS can't guarantee supplies on any orders because of the lorry driver shortage. This is up to and including drugs, ventilation equipment and syringes.
                          Welcome to brexit.

                          In 10/15 years we will have UN vehicles in the streets and aid coming in.
                          Yeah we have many random things we just cant get anymore which is driving some dentist potty. Impression trays seem to be the weird on, can only get some cheaper rougher ones and no partials anymore which I ordered months ago. Just keep getting backlogs of older stock too.

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