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    #31
    gIzzE - Sounds like you're in the same boat as me mate - when families come along gaming gets pushed out of the picture! I think this is probably the main reason I've gone off gaming in general. Totally agree with everything else you said too, mate.

    As said, I'm not 'connecting' with modern games through lack of time and I'm constantly harking back to when games did mean something to me - and that's the era of the Megadrive.

    Originally posted by Commander Marklar
    Yes, just recently actually. You just don't revel in it anymore
    Care to tell us what the game was, Marklar? Sorry, but I refuse to believe that you've recently picked up a game you've never even heard of and bought it. It just doesn't happen anymore. Even the most obscure releases these days have some coverage on the net. Back in the early 90's you only knew about the games they could fit into the pages of C&VG or Mean Machines each month. Like I said before this is both a good and bad thing - on one hand we are more informed these days but on the other it takes away the 'adventure' aspect of buying videogames.

    Originally posted by Commander Marklar
    Outrun 2's demo is a fine example of this, many a folk here went mental for it. I bought it in Lowestoft when I was visiting some friends for a few days, I was surprised to see it in Slough's GAME
    I've done this myself - bought a game on the off chance when visiting a store. Gradius V was the last title I did this with - I didn't even know it was out and picked it up when I saw it in my local indie store. But my point is you already knew about Outrun 2, you'd no doubt read about it and seen screenshots before you handed over the cash for it.

    Originally posted by Commander Marklar
    I'm sure there is better things you could be doing, like fixing your website.
    Why, is it broken?

    As I stated before my time is taken up mostly by work and family. Gaming time has been reduced to a few hours a week at the most. My website gets a look in every few months if its lucky. As you quite rightly state, I'm getting older, maybe not 'weak-minded' but just too bogged under with other more pressing matters.

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      #32
      There's a very easy solution to point 4.

      Don't go to gaming web sites, don't read reviews, don't read first impressions, don't read news. Claiming that the Internet has ruined gaming due to the information held on it doesn't wash when there's such an easy way to avoid it.

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        #33
        Sorry, but I refuse to believe that you've recently picked up a game you've never even heard of and bought it. It just doesn't happen anymore. Even the most obscure releases these days have some coverage on the net.
        Ah, you see, this is what I'm getting at. The game may have had coverage and looking on here shows it has been discussed but I haven't read anything about it. I'm not even sure what it looks like but I know it involves rolling a ball of rubbish around, or something. I've bought random games off Play-Asia before now, some stuff featured in Famitsu that I know nothing about, mostly 'cos I can't read Japanese but the pictures look nice

        I've bought that bomb disposal game Il Postino was bleating on about at the meet. I didn't see it, I left before he got it out but by all accounts it was pretty decent. Sounds like an original title, latched onto by word of mouth. I mentioned I often pick up random things in gaming stores (Secret Weapons over Normandy springs to mind, I title I bought on the strength of the detail on its packaging >_< )... I simply don't have the time to read every thread out there, I just tend to follow the games that interest me. I guess you could say I pace myself a bit, don't spoil things too much, even if the information exists out there.

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          #34
          Originally posted by brian
          i think the problem now is to much choice, i ve got an xbox full of roms and emus, some new titles and i just dont want to play any of them (apart from 1942 which is the only game im managing to play at mo). choice is bad sometimes!
          To be fair thats a bad example I mean it is an xbox what do you expect?

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            #35
            Originally posted by MartyG
            There's a very easy solution to point 4.

            Don't go to gaming web sites, don't read reviews, don't read first impressions, don't read news. Claiming that the Internet has ruined gaming due to the information held on it doesn't wash when there's such an easy way to avoid it
            I know what you mean, but the problem is gaming is my main interest and as I said I usually surf the net in my dinner hour at work (I'd do other things but the place where I work is in the middle of nowhere). Saying that I should 'stay away' from sites on the net is hard than it sounds. It's like being a football fan and being told not to read the back page of a newspaper. Now I do avoid sites like IGN when I can, but even coming onto message boards like this one results in you reading opinions on games, so you just can't escape it. I've tried bringing books in to read in my dinner hour but surfing the net is so much easier, it's almost relaxing so I always find myself starting back at the computer screen after a few minutes of book reading! Maybe I'm addicted...

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              #36
              Originally posted by Duddyroar

              4) The internet has ruined videogames.

              Yes, I do believe that. But not in the way you might think. I'm not talking about net gaming, but the net as a source of information. Let me explain. The year is 1991. I'm 11. I've just walked half an hour to my local newsagents to pick up the latest issue of Mean Machines. I walk back home, tightly holding said magazine close to my chest. Once I'm home I sit down in front of the warm fire and start to read. Games I've never even heard of are flashing before my eyes. These are games that are coming out in the next few months, not years. I see a single screenshot, probably no bigger than a stamp, of Golden Axe 2 for the Megadrive. This single screenshot made me more excited that a million video-streams of Halo 2 or MGS 3. I suppose you could say 'less is more'. I know this is a rather strange theory, but the more you are exposed to a game, the less excited you are. Back in 1991 It didn't matter than Golden Axe 2 was basically Golden Axe with different visuals and sounds - I was so excited when I finally got it, I looked past all that and probably enjoyed the game more than I have with any recent videogame. I know this is a really, really twisted idea (less exposure makes crap videogames good) but my point is that back in 1991 printed magazines were our only link to videogame news, and because we were forced to wait every month for new developments it made us more 'excited' about games. These days we can have as much information as we want about the game, and once you've seen the game in video form, it dulls the impact and takes some of the 'surprise' and out of playing it yourself for the first time.

              Yes, i have been trying to say this for years now the psp release seems boring? Bet it wouldnt have been 8 years ago - those of you who remember EDGE issue 11 should know what I mean....go on you were pretty damned **** your pants excited at seeing a playstation for the first time.

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                #37
                Originally posted by bangaio
                Yes, i have been trying to say this for years now the psp release seems boring? Bet it wouldnt have been 8 years ago - those of you who remember EDGE issue 11 should know what I mean....go on you were pretty damned **** your pants excited at seeing a playstation for the first time.
                Exactly! I too remember how excited I got when I saw the first import PSX games...the same thing happened with the Saturn, too.

                Both the PSP and the DS fail to excite me at the moment.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Duddyroar
                  Exactly! I too remember how excited I got when I saw the first import PSX games...the same thing happened with the Saturn, too.

                  Both the PSP and the DS fail to excite me at the moment.

                  Oh my the golden wooden saturn, that was so nice. Actually the psp is the first for a while to really get me excited but i have seen very little of it. Guess that is why!

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