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    #16
    What i would say to Kyo_224 is: Even if you aren't that good at maths, still do the course if you have your heart set on it, because at the end of the day your learning to programming and your determination and eagerness to learn will pull you through it, even if it is 5 years! What you've got to ask yourself is, where will this industry be in 5 years when i finish and is the course preparing me enough for a job when i do finish!

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      #17
      Originally posted by MartyG
      There's a lot of maths involved: Trig, Vectors, Matrices, Parametric equations, Complex number theory, calculus, and I'm sure more than I know about.
      Urgh, my god that reminds me why I stopped reading gamedev.net, when I had dreams of being a games programmer. No money + long hours, or I can go get a S.A.P job and earn more money than footballers...

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        #18
        Originally posted by the_dude
        Ah, but people don't only play games on consoles! There's games for the Web, Mobile Phone, PDA's,
        Erm, flash games have math in em' If you're gonna argue source, from one of the games I made for fun during my HND.

        MovieClip.prototype.calculateSpeed = function(velocity) {
        this.xadd = velocity*Math.sin(this._rotation*(Math.PI/180));
        this.yadd = velocity*Math.cos(this._rotation*(Math.PI/180));
        };

        Basic I know, but I just had to prove a point
        Last edited by gingerj; 13-12-2005, 19:29.

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          #19
          Originally posted by gingerj
          Urgh, my god that reminds me why I stopped reading gamedev.net, when I had dreams of being a games programmer. No money + long hours, or I can go get a S.A.P job and earn more money than footballers...
          Yeah - but game programmers do it for the love - I have to agree though, as much as I'd like to switch to games programming, I make enough from designing and programming business systems - not that that can't be complex and involve long hours at times, and I reckon I'd get just as bored as at the end of the day, maths aside, it's about designing and programming a system.

          I just think I much prefer playing games It all depends on how dedicated you are: any course at uni requires self motivation and if you're struggling, it requires even more.

          Crunch times seem to be the norm in many games programming companies - EA are notorious for it, but it's not like that with everyone. I read an interesting interview with the dev studio that programmed Buzz, which talked about long hours not being needed. I have to agree with much of it.
          Last edited by MartyG; 13-12-2005, 19:37.

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            #20
            By the time someone finishes such a course, most mobile and PDA games will probably be 3D too.

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              #21
              not to be snooty but i really wouldnt do games at paisley its a mickey mouse uni in the eyes of a lot of employers, if you want to do games why not go to Abertay their course is a lot more recognised

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                #22
                I just want to reiterate my main point, cause its an important one.

                If you do a gaming degree, then find you don't like working in the games industry, you're pretty much hosed as regards finding other work.

                I've seen it happen.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by wush

                  By the time someone finishes such a course, most mobile and PDA games will probably be 3D too.
                  True, 3D games for mobile phones are already available for download and are programmed using Java! One of the reasons Java isn't used for the console games is because it's to slow, hence why they use C/C++ instead as it can compile faster. Java/C/C++ are all OOP (Object-Oriented Programming languages), and be used to create 3D content/games, it's just that Java is used more for the web/mobile phones/and PDA's.

                  Also, 3D graphics on mobiles are going to get better and better as 3d accelerators are being developed.

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                    #24
                    This is why I have the utmost respect for specialised Physics programmers. The maths involved in it is scary. I dropped out of Further Maths A level because I didn't see where I was ever going to use it, and I have zero interest in getting into programming so I guess I made the right decision.
                    Last edited by MartyG; 15-12-2005, 09:27.

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                      #25
                      Computer Games Technology 2

                      Heh sorry guys but i cant seem to gain access to page 3 of the thread! Im actually using the internet from a library so I sometimes get kicked off the forum.

                      the_dude: Also, is it the programming side of things you want to do! Or would you prefer to do the modelling part of it!

                      I've not really had much experience at programming so im not really sure if i'd be any good or not.. Ive also considered computer animation and/or web development. What did u do to get into web dev?

                      *error fixed*
                      Last edited by kyo_244; 15-12-2005, 09:40.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by oblivion_6
                        not to be snooty but i really wouldnt do games at paisley its a mickey mouse uni in the eyes of a lot of employers, if you want to do games why not go to Abertay their course is a lot more recognised
                        Man the uni has a Playstation 2 development lab funded by sony! Does that still make it a mickey mouse uni?

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by kyo_244
                          Man the uni has a Playstation 2 development lab funded by sony! Does that still make it a mickey mouse uni?
                          Only saying what ive heard from the 4 different times ive been involved in recruiting

                          My uni had an oracle lab funded by Oracle and a network lab funded by Cisco and in the eyes of many it was still seen as a mickey mouse uni


                          Seriously ive been involved in recruiting before and weve always tended to avoid people who go for specific it courses (unless its a MSC)

                          Not to knock Paisley but if youve got the grades and dont mind travelling Abertay really does look much better, paisley is still regarded as an "easy" uni to the fact that the entry requirements are much lower than other unis

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by oblivion_6
                            Only saying what ive heard from the 4 different times ive been involved in recruiting

                            My uni had an oracle lab funded by Oracle and a network lab funded by Cisco and in the eyes of many it was still seen as a mickey mouse uni


                            Seriously ive been involved in recruiting before and weve always tended to avoid people who go for specific it courses (unless its a MSC)

                            Not to knock Paisley but if youve got the grades and dont mind travelling Abertay really does look much better, paisley is still regarded as an "easy" uni to the fact that the entry requirements are much lower than other unis
                            Id say my grades were on average B- to B. And i dont fancy travelling that far so i think ill stick with paisley. I think the sandwich placement is also an excellent opportunity to get str8 into the industry.

                            I've also considered taking IT in general as a course.

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                              #29
                              PLacement is a god send, I can honestly say that my placement year made me able to have the job ive got today

                              Theres people who graduated with me years and years ago who got 1st class honours ( I got a 2:2 lol) and they had no placement experience and theyre still looking to break into the job market

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                                #30
                                wow! what did u graduate in by the way?

                                and would u not say that paisley is still a good option with placement involved?
                                Last edited by kyo_244; 15-12-2005, 10:05.

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