What are the Wii specs?

[MrDo]

360 games in 2 years will be like they are today, First person shooters and other boring chart friendly genres with an extra layer of AA.

What and the Wii won't be? Remember the Wii controller was born to play First person shooters. The Wii's games will be like everyone else's except with ****e visuals, and that you can control it differently.

[kernow]

absolutely, who cares about graphics if the game is no fun to play, or the same old formula.. snore

Depth is so overrated, Videogames should be fun and about the experience.

360 games in 2 years will be like they are today, First person shooters and other boring chart friendly genres with an extra layer of AA.

[Red or Alive]

What and the Wii won't be? Remember the Wii controller was born to play First person shooters. The Wii's games will be like everyone else's except with ****e visuals, and that you can control it differently.

Do you come from the future, Mr. Do? 'Cause if you aren't, then you're posting with the same level of knowledge about the Wii that the rest of us have. That is, bugger all. We've not even seen a game running on the final bleedin' hardware yet, so screaming "****e visuals" is somewhat premature (and borderline immature).

As for depth, as far as I'm concerned, any console that launches with Twilight Princess has got it.

And this coming from someone slavering at the mouth for MGS 4.

However, if on the off-chance you do come from the future do feel free to pm me this week's lottery numbers.

[Ginger Tosser]

Who cares, the games will be ****e with no depth compared to those on the 360 and PS3 in 2 years.

Another Nintendo thread and a quality post from MrDo.

[Mofoman]

The E3 games were programmed on modified dolphin kits, so are not indicative of the final quality of wii's graphics capabilities at all really.I would imagine the graphics chip is finished by now and when the next news comes out in september we will see what the wii is capable off , but like any launch titles it will not be exactly what it is caable of as the devs wou;ld have only had a few months to play about with the console in it's final form.

One thing is for certain though, the graphics WILL be an upgrade from the Cube and that is pretty good to me as Biohazard four was an absolutely beautiful game and you also have to remmeber they do not have to program for HD, so this allows them to make absolutely beautiful games for SD.

This console is going to be an upgrade to the Cube and although we won't get Xbox 360 graphics, we will get nice looking games, so stop worrying people.Nintendo have invested alot of money into the processor and GPU, so it is not just going to be like the cune with a few effects, it's like that just now, as we are seeing games running on Gamecubes flipper with more ram.

[fiendicus_prime]

I thought I'd ressurect this thread for some Wii ranting, seeing as the other one was in the wrong forum.

@ Jushin-Thunder-Liger - I think the Wii games will be great, but I don't see why a more powerful GPU (in particular) should not be present. There is no excuse for it given the amount of technological progress since Gamecube was released. Putting in more powerful hardware does not stop people from making innovative games, but limiting the hardware does create limits on the kinds of games you can make.

Also, whilst gamers "in the know" might go for Wii - the general populous is likely to be unimpressed at the primitive graphics on display.

I'm not asking for Xbox360 power here just, say, 3-4x the power of Gamecube instead of 1.5x.

[charlesr]

Your missing the whole point of the Wii. The general populous isn't going to notice the difference between the gfx on the Wii and on the 360 because they don't have HD TVs. If gfx quality was an issue for the general populous, the PS2 would have nosedived. Having the worst quality graphics of the main three didn't affect PS2 sales at all.

And whilst MS and Sony have to heavily subsidise the cost of their consoles, Nintendo will be no doubt aiming to make money on each one. So by having power that's plenty powerful enough for SD, the costs will be dramatically smaller.

[ascender]

Having the worst quality graphics of the main three didn't affect PS2 sales at all.

But that's because it was a Sony console and you know how strong the brand is. I think we're all hoping that the general public see past the graphics on offer if they are noticeably poorer than what is on display with the Xbox and PS3, but I think Ninty have to work out their launch strategy very carefully in terms of price and launch titles and also demo pods in stores.

[charlesr]

Do the graphics on 360 demo pods blow you away? If they did, then everyone would have bought one by now. But it's not why people buy consoles. The step up from the last gen to this one just isn't large enough for the general populace to care about. Much like the jump from DVD to HDDVD.

[ascender]

Do the graphics on 360 demo pods blow you away?

They look OK, but I've not paid much attention to them tbh. At least MS got them in to stores with Samsung TVs and generated a bit of a buzz.

I think that in the case of the general public, the quality of graphics on offer are still a big reason to buy a console. But, I think brand loyalty is possibly a bigger reason to buy a new console from a company. Nintendo have obviously made great progress with the DS but I think they're going to have a much more difficult battle on their hands with the Wii as the console market is way different form the handheld market.

[charlesr]

Totally true. And Nintendo were the brand leader anyway in the handheld, so quite a headstart.

[ascender]

I even think its important for them to pick their launch date and set a price too in order to maximise their chances of sales, especially with the PS3 launch coming up. Its going to be a really interesting time when both those consoles launch, especially to see how Nintendo play it. Its going to be quite a contradiction, even in terms of price, between the PS3 and the Wii.

[MattyD]

Honestly guys, I'm playing Metroid 2 on the GameCube right now and the graphics look better than most Xbox games. The only possible improvements on that sort of standard will just be tiny, almost impercetible differences, differences that most people don't have the technical know-how to even perceive. Art quality and direction is far more important to making a game visually pleasing unless you're going down the as-lifelike-as-possible route, which Nintendo clearly aren't.

[fiendicus_prime]

I do find X360 graphics pretty good actually, although I take the point that for a supposedly mind blowingly powerful machine they are not "mind blowing".

Recently I played FEAR on the PC and apart from looking damn fine anyway, it used all sorts of modern special effects which added to the gameplay e.g. parallax mapping on bullet damage, real time lighting effects, realistic soft shadows, smoke effects. It wouldn't have been as immersive or scary a game without these effects, which require significant power to run.

Another example is SOTC on PS2 - which just about gets away with presenting the vision of the game, but I think most people would agree it could do with a bit more power to do it justice.

[MikeRox]

I've been playing 360 stuff on an SDTV, and I've been playing the odd better looking GC game in between as well. Yes the 360 is noticibly better looking, but stuff like F-Zero, Eternal Darkness and Metroid Prime still don't look bad next to it. The Wii will be able to hold it's own visually, it won't amaze, but the games will look good enough, and as people have said, Nintendo have an excellent graphical style with most stuff they do. Games like Killer 7 too couldn't really look any better even with more processing power.