What attracts people to the Tekken series?

[jide]

To be fair, Tekken did really well because of the playstation generation. Had other fighters "cough" VF been on it. I think it would be fair to say that both would have popular too.

Playing with mates is the key but a game needs to be popular to do that. His mate tells that mate etc..

Kongster, Tekken has always been popular in the west than VF. I don't see that changing any time soon. Another problem is not really understanding the mechanics of the game.. You'll never appreciate truly appreciate any fighting game from far away until you get yourself involved. 3D games require as much reflexes as 2D games do. They're all based on frames anyway..

What I would truly like to see is a new fighter which can bring both the hardcore and casual gamers. Something that breaks the mold regardless of whether its 2D or 3D.

But back to the Topic. Tekken's presentation has allowed it to be attractive to a lot of people like Soul Calibur too. Music, CG intros, story line, character design(no matter how pants it is). Namco got it right in that respect..

Infact it reminds of a similar thing (Fifa vs Pro Evo/ISS).

[Team Andromeda]

I think it was becease it was much more in your face than VF and it wasn't a bad game to boot. Presentation in the likes of Tekken II was 2nd to none and those were in the days when CGI intro?s helped to sell the game in the west The blasting music the bone crushing moves and impact and lighting effects, and all the extra?s Made Tekken to the casual see more cool, and it was far easier for them to do some bone crushing moves.

Also one can?t overlook what system 11 did too. Very few Arcades could afford Model2 never mind Model3. But I saw Tekken boards everywhere even in pubs ect

[Lebowski]

From what I've read above, I cannot help but get the sneaky feeling many of you here play only against AI??? Unlockable after completion, story mode, Jinpachi cheap etc etc etc. It's such a recurring theme, that's all.

Edit: oh, this is console chat...nvm me.

I think you have hit the nail on the head there, fighting games are designed to be played together and tekken like most fighting games comes into its own in two player, ive lost many an hour learning new moves and honeing my skills in the arcade and at home, it's just a great party game and a lot more acssesable than the frankley quite obbsesive and train spotterish vf series.

as for the fifa vs iss comnment from jide you can gtf, tekken has far and away more quality than some lazy churned out 6 times a year football game.

[squidman]

I always thought Tekken had a really good atmosphere. Just start up a game of Tekken 5, and the character select screen is a firey, loud, slick looking affair. People can talk about deep, complex combo systems and spending hours refining their skills all they want, but all of that stuff is a lot easier to do when you're being dazzled by slick presentation.

[Dogg Thang]

fighting games are designed to be played together and tekken like most fighting games comes into its own in two player

True to an extent but single player is obviously a large part of the game and has to be taken into account. No reason for some people to disappear up ones hole as if playing single player is some sort of crime against the elite. Not you of course Lebowski. I'm speaking hypothetically...about Summah.

Squidman is spot-on about presentation. Compare presentation on Tekken to VF and, regardless of which game is better, you can see which one a new player would be drawn to.

[112]

About the 2 player aspect of fighters, you have to bare in mind that during the PSX and saturn days the dawn of the 3d fighter, gamers mostly played on there own, as this was a time when gaming, although deemed as cool, was still half way between being accepted and classed as geeky. Also, the PSX and saturn were so damn expensive back then, not everyone could afford them. It is true a good fighter is played against another player, but back in the day, you (well i and im sure many others will agree) played by yourself.

Its only in the noughties that gaming is accepted so much that even your parents and girl friend will play it.

On a seperate note, i have always felt that the way that the buttons on the controls corresponded to each limb in tekken, an aspect which may or may not be the key to the fighting aspect, that seperates it from VF. Remember that VF used a button to block, where as Tekken allowed you to pull back. A simple yet very suitable feature which allowed many of us Street fighter gamers to move from one fighter to another when 3d fighters arrived. I remember getting so pissed off with myself because i forgot how to block when i initially played VF (you know you did too!) If yah wanna experience that sensation again, play SF third strike for a couple of hours then move straight to VF and you'll soon remember how it was! lol.

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[Lebowski]

well i and im sure many others will agree) played by yourself.

you see i must of been lucky as we had the tekken arcade in our canteen which was so popular that it got removed half way through the year due to the levels of noise and intimidation the thing would create.

people would crowd round Tekken jearing or chearing there freinds on and it was quite the male dominated testostorne area of the canteen, a number of female's complained about it being a bit intimidateing and the next week it was gone, we moved down to millhill arcade in leeds and over to the uni bar where tekken 2 and xmen vs streetfighter took over so id have to disagree that i was playing on my own.

As for ps1 gameing on my own i had a best bud who played the ps1 nearley as much as i did and we could always count on a number of games of tekken when we met up much to the anoyance of my then girlfreind, god knows how she stayed with me i used to ignore her quite a bit back then because of sonys little grey box, i must of made it up to her though as she's now my wife

[Yoshimax]

we moved down to millhill arcade in leeds and over to the uni bar where tekken 2 and xmen vs streetfighter took over so id have to disagree that i was playing on my own.

Spoooky - Was there just a few weeks back......

[112]

you see i must of been lucky as we had the tekken arcade in our canteen which was so popular that it got removed half way through the year due to the levels of noise and intimidation the thing would create.

people would crowd round Tekken jearing or chearing there freinds on and it was quite the male dominated testostorne area of the canteen, a number of female's complained about it being a bit intimidateing and the next week it was gone, we moved down to millhill arcade in leeds and over to the uni bar where tekken 2 and xmen vs streetfighter took over so id have to disagree that i was playing on my own.

As for ps1 gameing on my own i had a best bud who played the ps1 nearley as much as i did and we could always count on a number of games of tekken when we met up much to the anoyance of my then girlfreind, god knows how she stayed with me i used to ignore her quite a bit back then because of sonys little grey box, i must of made it up to her though as she's now my wife

Well you've proved one thing atleast - that i was a sad lil kid when i was young!

thank GOD thati grew up!

or did i?

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[Lebowski]

Well you've proved one thing atleast - that i was a sad lil kid when i was young!

thank GOD thati grew up!

or did i?

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sorry dude not trying to make you look bad just putting across my experince and nobody really grows up you just learn how to act like an adult, so you can pick up lady's

[Wools]

About the 2 player aspect of fighters, you have to bare in mind that during the PSX and saturn days the dawn of the 3d fighter, gamers mostly played on there own, as this was a time when gaming, although deemed as cool, was still half way between being accepted and classed as geeky. Also, the PSX and saturn were so damn expensive back then, not everyone could afford them. It is true a good fighter is played against another player, but back in the day, you (well i and im sure many others will agree) played by yourself.

Although everyone has diffrent experiences I do feel that you're underestimating how much these were played multiplayer. Of course I played Tekken on my own from time to time but I would guess that 90% of all my play time on Tekken 1 - 5 was done in VS mode.

It cost about ?20 for a second controller and I picked up my PSone second hand for ?140 on the weekend the Platinum range was released. So that may change some opinions of when the console was deemed mainstream.

Anywho pick up the mighty Tekken 5, get yourselves a PS2 with another controller and play a brillant Tekken with Arcade perfect Tekken's 1 - 3 as a afterthought.

[eastyy]

i like tekken but ever since playing virtua fighter 4 my interest has gone down quite a bit

I do think the tekken series does feel a bit stiff by comparison

One thing i hoped they would introduce is when you can buffer moves slightly in advance like in the virtua fighter series

[jide]

as for the fifa vs iss comnment from jide you can gtf, tekken has far and away more quality than some lazy churned out 6 times a year football game.

Before you get really upset I meant PRESENTATION WISE!!!
To be good at both games Tekken and VF you have to become in your words train spotterish...

It goes for any fighting game worth it's salt..

[Kongster]

Kongster, Tekken has always been popular in the west than VF.

Aye, but for a time, that all changed when loads of people were deserting Tekken 4 in the arcades ( cos it was a let down) and turned to VF4.

Btw, I will be at casino this weekend for some Final Tuned.

[SummAh]

I find the comment abt TK being in ur face more so than VF to be VERY weird because in high lvl play, we know TK to be quite the opposite. Run away, wait....punish a whiffed attack, wait....rinse repeat. If anything, it's the newbies that will just attack non stop, while the 'experienced' fighter just sits, block n punish accordingly.

Most TK players I've spoken to find TK5 too easy, too accessible etc etc etc...and they prefer spotterish like TTT/TK3. Certainly, players needed to be more skillful technically in order to compete at high levels.

And oh, it shouldn't be described as spotterish. It's called good common sense in game balance/design. Balanced risk vs reward ratio, a design that encourages yomi and rewards or penalise players accordingly, something VF is notouriously famous for.