PS3 Display settings

[kernow]

Does anyone use the Full Range RGB HDMI and full white options?

I hear its dependent on your set.

I must spend hours fiddling with the bloody settings on my TV bah

[JP]

Full Range RGB should be on if your TV supports it but it'll crush your blacks if it doesn't.

There's an easy way to test it, have look at the test card here on your TV, if your TV supports it then the the darkest areas will be blacker than black but you'll still be able to see each of the gradients in the different boxes. If your TV doesn't support it then the darker blacks will all look the same.

I fairly sure that the Full White option is only compatible if you're connecting the PS3 to the TV using a YPb/CbPr/Cr signal.

[Largo]

Ive never tested it buy i have full range on, because if i turn it off everything goes kinda grayish, its a very noticable difference...course no idea if it supports it or not

[glazza]

Does anyone use the Full Range RGB HDMI and full white options?

I hear its dependent on your set.

I must spend hours fiddling with the bloody settings on my TV bah

Your not the only one mate.

Just got my new Samsung LE40A656F and for the life of me i cant decide if dynamic standard or movie is best for blu rays and gaming via HDMI..lol.

Any help be mosy apreciated.

G.

[sj33]

Dynamic is pretty nasty on most TV's because it's usually exactly what it says - tries to 'intellegently' change the settings based on the scene (that's how it works on my Bravia at home, anyway).

Don't pay too much heed to internet presets, because everyone's going to have their own for their environment and input, which won't necessarily be to your tastes. It's a good idea to grab a test image to see if the brightness is correct, because there's only one correct settings (otherwise you hide details in dark areas that should be seen, and expose others that shouldn't), but I'd argue most of the rest can be done by eye. I'd say most of us here have a good enough 'eye' to see when something looks really bad (like 'Vivid' preset on most TV's).

As for Full Range RGB, it does depend entirely on the capabilties of the TV I'm afraid. Normally it's safe to assume a TV doesn't support it. Easiest way to tell is to change to another setting and fire up RR7 (if you have it). If the setting is wrong, you'll know.

[kernow]

Ive never tested it buy i have full range on, because if i turn it off everything goes kinda grayish, its a very noticable difference...course no idea if it supports it or not

Exactly the same here, if I disable it, my blacks turn to grey and it just doesn't look as nice. My friend has just bought a swanky new sony set though and he's as anal as I am, but says it should be disabled on his. I dunno

I guess I'll leave it as is as it looks good to me.

[kernow]

There's an easy way to test it, have look at the test card here on your TV, if your TV supports it then the the darkest areas will be blacker than black but you'll still be able to see each of the gradients in the different boxes. If your TV doesn't support it then the darker blacks will all look the same.

hah, I already have that jpg on my ps3 hdd, what a coincidence, I think its a pretty even gradient on my current settings too. oh well.

[sj33]

In simplified terms, TV standard colour range is 16-235, whereas PC monitors display the full 0-255 colour range. Obviously TV's colour range is smaller.

The vast majority of TV's will do TV-standard 16-235 colour range over HDMI (being intended for TV use) and 0-255 colour range over VGA (being intended for PC use). However, many newer TV's are capable of the full colour range over HDMI (or your HDMI might have a 'PC Mode'). The 'Full Range RGB' option allows you to take advantage of this.

Some of you may remember various complaints about the 360 VGA output being 'washed' on some screens - this is due to incorrect colour range. More recent 360 updates added 'Standard', 'Intermediate' and 'Extended' options to correct this. It's basically the same thing.

With this in mind, it's clear that only one of the two options will be correct for your TV, but don't assume that 'Full' is always better because if your TV is expecting 16-235, you'll be loosing detail in the darker and lighter parts of the image.

[kernow]

Yeah, I know what the full range RGB actually means, but whereas using it or not. hmm.

I guess I could turn it off and reduce the brightness, maybe I'll fiddle around tomorrow. hmm.

It'd be nice if I could find out what models of TV actually support the mode and which don't, but I doubt that'll happen.

[Darwock]

edit - it's all been said already

[kernow]

so, I put it back onto limited range rgb, and brought my brightness and contrast down to compensate (blacks are pretty black), used the brightness pic above and its looking pretty good, I'll try it like this for a few days, games and films seem pretty nice.

I could fart around with this all day though and not be 100% on which is better. sigh

[kernow]

after a bit of googling, and trust me there are a LOT of sites trying to explain the differences. I found a voice of reason, or at least I think so.

http://www.gadgetoid.com/2008/01/20/the-ps3-rgb-full-range-hdmi-fiasco/

Basically it shouldn't be used I think, except if you're using it on a DVI->hdmi on an lcd or hdtv-esque monitor as such. Going to keep with limited for now and just try to calibrate the TV better.

[kernow]

As for Full Range RGB, it does depend entirely on the capabilties of the TV I'm afraid. Normally it's safe to assume a TV doesn't support it. Easiest way to tell is to change to another setting and fire up RR7 (if you have it). If the setting is wrong, you'll know.

[Brad]

My tv has 2 modes, HD or PC

In HD mode my PS3 overscans and I have to use the reduced colour range (tested using a test card similar to the one linked to above). In PC mode there's no overscanning and I can use the full dynamic range and everything is waaaaaayyyyy better. I have a Philips TV BTW.

[JU!]

after a bit of googling, and trust me there are a LOT of sites trying to explain the differences. I found a voice of reason, or at least I think so.

http://www.gadgetoid.com/2008/01/20/the-ps3-rgb-full-range-hdmi-fiasco/

Basically it shouldn't be used I think, except if you're using it on a DVI->hdmi on an lcd or hdtv-esque monitor as such. Going to keep with limited for now and just try to calibrate the TV better.

Helpful stuff cheers. When my PS3 first booted in HDMI it set limited RGB ws not sure myself which ws best. I was also wondering about full RGB and have a HD monitor HDMI->HDMI I did have full RGB on but have tried it off and as a result my monitors blacks looked more grey. So I`m guessing full RGB is not the way to go if you have a HDTV but HD monitor fulll RGB on. Got Ridge Racer 7 on now to see many thanks . Monitor better with full RGB on.