[comments] Rainbow Six Vegas review

[Uli]

The co-operative multiplayer modes do offer some respite from this, but even then it rarely provides any truly great, stand-out moments. It’s a game that will entertain first person shooter fans for a few hours but there are far better alternatives out there than this.

i wonder why people write reviews of games or genres they apparently either don't like or have no sense of understanding of?

R6 Vegas is probably my most played game on the 360 with countless hours of playing co-operatively with my friends and LOTS of standout moments and memorable sessions...

...most probably on LVU

it's true that the tactical aspects of the series have been toned down over time but this still remains a tactical shooter with a great accessibility and superior online interface and gameplay modes!

looking very much forward to the successor. Ubisoft better breaks the silence in Cologne!

[averybluemonkey]

Just to put the review in perspective, Uli, I did play through the game 4 times (twice in coop) and then spent easily in excess of 30 hours on the multiplayer, both co-operative and versus, all with friends. So this isn't just a hack job of someone who played through it once and decided they didn't like it, I put the time in. Shooters are my most played genre:

http://profile.mygamercard.net/averybluemonkey

[Matt]

Does the line "there are far better alternatives out there than this" refer to then, or now?

[Uli]

well, first of, i hope you didn't take my critics as an offence.

then, from reading your words, i really wonder how you came to put so much time in a game you obviously don't really appreciate much?

the games has flaws, indeed lots of. but Killzone 2 does too. of course, in the end every review just reflects personal taste and opinion. but maybe you should revise some parts of your review and most of all give the damn game a score that at least wont make you look like a fool given the playtime you've invested.

[averybluemonkey]

Uli->
Of course not, I just didn't want you to think I'd just done a quick hack job on a game you liked.

Chain->
I felt it back then when I bought it, years ago.

[Kubrick]

Wow, this is one to rank alongside OutRun2...

I didn't play this until 2008 - post-Gears, post-COD4 and even post-R6V2 and still thought it was great. The campaign on Realistic difficulty was a better experience than any of the aforementioned games.

[FelixofMars]

If your favourite game is Kain and Lynch your opinion is null and void

Just to put the review in perspective, Uli, I did play through the game 4 times (twice in coop) and then spent easily in excess of 30 hours on the multiplayer, both co-operative and versus, all with friends. So this isn't just a hack job of someone who played through it once and decided they didn't like it, I put the time in. Shooters are my most played genre:

http://profile.mygamercard.net/averybluemonkey

[prinnysquad]

It makes for interesting reading, but I disagree with many of the negatives. Like the reviewer, I think the visuals and sound are great. However, I also find the gunplay very satisfying, the cover system better than Gears, and the locales neatly designed to give the impression of a squad sweeping through a building.

Personally I did find that the game generated a lot of tension due to the cramped nature of the levels - getting stuck in a bottleneck was always a worry, and pinning down an enemy while a buddy flanked him could produce some very satisfying scenarios. Even on terrorist hunt with the spawning points, if you had the difficulty on realistic you spent the whole level anxiously edging around corners. I would have said clearing a room of enemies without getting hit due to clever use of cover was very satisfying!

The story mode was okay, maybe too easy, but in co-op the game was a blast. I found this to be a perplexing angle:

the new cover system, which, although very fluid through an innovative use of the shoulder trigger, makes it all too easy to take out foes without ever exposing yourself.

Isn't that the point of a strike team? To stay under cover, then pick their moment with ruthless efficiency? Personally I felt the swift nature of the kill when you popped out of cover was very engaging, and added to my imagined authenticity of the scenario. I think it's unfair to say that the game has no need for accuracy - if you start blasting away, say, in the casino from a distance, in my experience chances are you'd have wasted a lot of bullets for little result.

I haven't played the original games so I've got no point of reference, which makes the gripes about a change of direction rather meaningless.

[PeteJ]

Get out!

Seriously the only reason I played GRAW as much as I have is other people liked the game, I thought the gun play is awful. the sensitivity is all over the shop. The cover system is also very poor while the Vegas one on the triggers is very satisfying.

Actually you are probably right, the cover system in Vegas is very well implemented though I still prefer the coop missions in GRAW.

My view has been tarnished by the lazy sequel which I thought was pretty awful (almost the same game but with horrible level design), thinking back I did enjoy the original quite a bit.

[Team Andromeda]

The review score is a joke , its one of the best multi player game on the 360 , and I enjoye the single player mode too . Its the sequel that should get 4 out of 10 , not this

[Plisken]

is this a joke review, nearly 3!years late and such a poor score for a well-recived title? i played this more than gears of war when it was released! everyone's entitled to there opinions, but bloody hell..

[Uli]

The review score is a joke , its one of the best multi player game on the 360 , and I enjoye the single player mode too . Its the sequel that should get 4 out of 10 , not this

you are kidding, right? maybe the campaign is weaker comparatively but the game is nicely enhanced and updated.

if i go back to Vegas 1, and i do so often, i really miss the sprint button for instance. oh, and it also wont take long until i get reminded that my 7.62mm bullet wont make it through a wooden barrel...

if they just had paid more attention to the maps or even made the old one available for free this would be the best sequel ever for me.

[FelixofMars]

Coop in GRAW is fun I find, the visuals are enjoyable and its one of the only split screen online games left. But I personally prefer Vegas, the second one while it looked better had the bloody sprint button which made it run and gun. It was useful in singleplayer but unbalanced multiplayer. It was as annoying as constant bunnyhopping.

Actually you are probably right, the cover system in Vegas is very well implemented though I still prefer the coop missions in GRAW.

My view has been tarnished by the lazy sequel which I thought was pretty awful (almost the same game but with horrible level design), thinking back I did enjoy the original quite a bit.

[capcom_suicide]

*Cue Capcom Suicide entering the room to admonish me for having broken eyes or something similar*

What the hell? ZOMFG!!

Fix your broken eyes Dots!



Reviews are a personal affair, and I've met a fair few who didn't particularly get on with Vegas.

As for it getting a 4? The reviewer put the time in, and formed an opinion. Fair do's. I don't agree with it though, because I genuinly do feel the game delivers in producing a sublime experience in Coop Realistic.

[Spatial]

Wargh! Demon Children!