I REALLY hate Microsoft's marketing people

[scottcr]

My particular post wasn't an xbox bash.. it was more a swipe at marketing tactics that are really quite nasty in places... business is business... but... I'm not sure if japanese companies are prepared for doing things the "american way".

btw... I'm convinced that overall.. MS will eventually win the "living room" box battle.

[Burai]

These are the last words I'd ever thought I'd be saying. But can we lay off the Xbox bashing. I don't even own one, but seriously NTSC has like 4 or 5 xbox is teh sux!11! threads.

Look Darth Gates made some rank decisions and the spin machine is out in full force for this holiday season. So lets accept that and go back to playing our cool games on the system's we have.

As a non Xbox owner I admit it has some appealing titles, but not enough to make me make the big leap. I was really jealous about KOTOR, but then Disgaea came out and I forgot about it. Actually Rebel Strike for GC will fill the void better.

Either way its all good. When MS finally bows out we can rag on them!

Great Xbox sucks, people hate it, MS made some bad decisions now lets move on and talk about games again or else this board will turn into gamefaqs.

Don't be absurd. There's a difference between market analysis and saying that something sucks. Xbox doesn't suck - it's great. It lets me do all sorts of naughty gaming related things easily. Sadly the company pushing it is a complete jackass.

I mean, I love my Dreamcast but that didn't make Sega any less of a couple of pushes down the stairs short of a visit from social services when it came to marketing, and not being rubbish at stuff.

What Brats said

You probably make some good points there and probably make me look like a complete idiot in most of them. Sadly you're incredibly boring and I can never bring myself to read your words to find out. SORRY!

[Che Musashi]

So do you think they should market it as hacker's delight and at least they'd have a chance with their console? Sure Xbox is great if its modded and has a bigger hard drive!

But the company behind it is completely forgeting that instead of being in the game business because they want to bring something new, they just recycle the same old tired crap with an Otogi or 2 in there for good measure.

Is that what your telling me Burai?

[Burai]

I dunno man. That argues and agrees with me all at once and thusly scares me.

[Che Musashi]

Cool we're on the same page. I agree Microsoft is **** but there's 60 million posts here saying that already. All I was calling for was some peace and game discussion again.

Granted the Xbox is a nice piece of kit. The design is teh sux!1! But the company behind it has too many cooks running the show. Let these Xbox threads die.

[Burai]

Let these Xbox threads die.

What, like Microsofts Home Entertainment division? ***CANNED LAUGHTER***

I should have my own sitcom. It'd be like the Cosby Show. Only less black. And less rubbish.

Enter: Tom Bosley ***APPLAUSE***

[Che Musashi]

Burai your in the zone. I guess I can live with the Xbox is good but excuted poorly threads. They will die soon enough. Though I'm kind of liking this one.

[Max M]

Xbox doesn't suck - it's great. It lets me do all sorts of naughty gaming related things easily. Sadly the company pushing it is a complete jackass.

Well, exactly. I think these pictures speak for themselves:







Edit: Sorry about the bad language on the second picture. It's the only copy of that pic I could find.

[replicant]

so basically these forums should only have positive comments relating to the xbox?

sorry its not perfect. it has problems. these problems will be discussed.

[replicant]

dont apologise. he is a ****.

and lol at the super exciting xbox "sneakers"

twat. and as for the other guy...

[Che Musashi]

No Replicant I'm ok with bashing them, but it just seems like a multitude of threads bash them. The J. Allard picture made my day!

WINNER!

[Halo]

Last 2 markets Microsoft have attacked with as much vigour as the Console market?

Server OS
Office productivity

Don't hear much of Novell and Lotus anymore do you?

Novell basically missed the boat as far as Server OSes. However, you still hear about AIX, Linux and other Unix flavours. Microsoft haven't taken over the Server market.

Lotus still exists, and does rather well. Although they don't do Lotus Smartsuite anymore, they still make lots of money out of Lotus Notes. Most places you'll find don't have Office 2003 but Office '97. A lot of companies are switching over to OpenOffice and StarOffice which does the same thing at a fraction of the price and hard-disk space.

Microsoft have only sewn up one market - the home Operating System market. Everything else they produce has clear rivals.

Windows Server and Linux. IIS and Apache. ASP and PHP. Microsoft aren't as big as they'd like to think.

[Leynos]

There's a difference between valid reasoned criticism and the fanboy drivel that seems to accompany these posts.

If you don't like a console, because of the company that makes it, fine. If there's no games on the console that appeal to you, fine. There's nothing to stop you holding and expressing this opinion. On the other hand, neither of these are valid reasons to insult the owners of that console nor their taste in games.

I'll try very hard to stop responding to these threads. :P

Later.

[Brats]

What Brats said

You probably make some good points there and probably make me look like a complete idiot in most of them. Sadly you're incredibly boring and I can never bring myself to read your words to find out. SORRY!

Take my word for it, I do make you sound like a complete idiot .

[John Beaulieu]

cheers to all the members who 'featured' in this stunning thread .... more to come next month with 'MS shaved my cat'.

camps

ps anyone know where i can buy some of those Xbox sneakers for the November meet? pm shall suffice