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    #16
    Staff discount and a braindead supervisor meant i got red and blue for about £40 total. Argos ftw.

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      #17
      Played Pokemon Red mostly, great game. Had lv100 Mewtwo, Charizard and an Articuno and took them to a tournament in Crystal Palace. Got battered by a child with a full team of Lv100 Mewtwos, which was against the rules! They had some kind of device that put a Mew into your game if you beat one of the reps... those were the days. I'm 27 now

      Liked the idea of the N64 games and how they let you download new Pokemon for winning certain events, but it was hard as nails.

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        #18
        Played and loved Pokemon Blue back in the day on my brand new Game Boy Color. Finding new Pokemons was a great experience. Remember giving each of them their own name, got really connected with my versatile team of six Pokemons.

        Then I bought Silver when it came out. I was astonished at how little had changed. Aside from superficial features like the day and night cycles and color, the game was the same as the one I played a year ago. You start out as a child in some generic town, get a one of three Pokemons from the local scientist, travel to new cities to battle the local trainer, fight people without personality on the way, meet and battle your rival from time to time, untill you have defeated all eight trainers. It's the exact same game! Sure the Pokemons and their moves look different this time around, and the city has a different layout, but it feels like playing Red or Blue. The story isn't even improved, which is quite a feat considering there really wasn't one in the first games.

        And now, fifteen years later (thirteen since it's western release), the games STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED! The battle view is unchanged. The characters still haven't got any personality. You still move on a grid FFS!

        This is really infuriating as I find the core concept extremely appealing. If they could make a modern version of this series, I would buy on day one. Imagine running around in 3D world with the viewpoint of Zelda OOT. Imagine going to new towns with wild Pokemon actually running around on screen. Imagine the battles looking as good as the ones in Final Fantasy games. Imagine the game having a proper story, maybe even with cutscenes. Such a wasted opportunity. Don't imagine we will see anything different anytime soon, as the games still sell perplexingly good.

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          #19
          Originally posted by Alex WS View Post
          And now, fifteen years later (thirteen since it's western release), the games STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED!
          I've never touched a Pokemon game; I was going through a console-only phase around then, and I think Red / Blue was a period when I was exclusively SNES all the way. Never thought it'd be realistic to catch up as one, then another, came out over the years. Is it worth going back to the start, or just diving in with the DS games, OR is there no point anyway as there's no way I'll scratch the surface of catching them all? I'm unlikely to find anyone to link up with and get into the two-player side of things.

          And, can you actually play these games in patchy bits every so often or is the only way to let it consume you and penetrate your brain, life and every waking hour?

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            #20
            Originally posted by sadat View Post
            I've never touched a Pokemon game; I was going through a console-only phase around then, and I think Red / Blue was a period when I was exclusively SNES all the way. Never thought it'd be realistic to catch up as one, then another, came out over the years. Is it worth going back to the start, or just diving in with the DS games, OR is there no point anyway as there's no way I'll scratch the surface of catching them all? I'm unlikely to find anyone to link up with and get into the two-player side of things.

            And, can you actually play these games in patchy bits every so often or is the only way to let it consume you and penetrate your brain, life and every waking hour?
            The games have no ongoing narrative of any kind. They take place in the same world, and reference other places, but not much else. I would buy one of the latest ones, as they are marginally better than the older ones, and have better graphics (barely).

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              #21
              But as for the question of scratching the surface of catching them all, you won't with the new ones. As of Black/White there are something like over 600 Pokemon, a huge amount of which you'll have to get from friends, if they've got them, many more you will never, ever get without following a guide and many that you'll only get by the grace and kindness of Nintendo events. You don't stand a chance.

              Really the best way to experience Pokemon is to travel back to the late '90s, when there were only around 150 Pokemon and play it then. Probably an easier feat than catching th all now.

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                #22
                I agree with that. If you want to catch them all, Blue or Red is the best bet. Yellow will need Pokemons from both Red and Blue to have a complete set. But you will still need to link (via Game Boy Link cable on a Game Boy system) with another Pokemon game to get them all. Unless you have crazy hardcore Pokemon friends, I doubt this will be easy to achieve. So unless you want to catch them all, I would go for SoulSilver or HeartGold. They have ironed out a lot of annoyances from the past games, and have an active online community.

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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Alex WS View Post
                  So unless you want to catch them all, I would go for SoulSilver or HeartGold
                  Just been reading reviews, and there's a lot to choose from! But SoulSilver seems to hit the sweet spot of having the core classic game, and refining it to a level where it can't get better, without just being ginormous. It's also on the DS, which I've got hanging about, rather than an older Gameboy, which I'd have to dig out and be careful with. And it's CLEARLY got the best name of them all. Hadn't clicked on to the fact that you can battle people by Wi-Fi, but then again the only time I've used Friend Codes was with Mario Kart DS and that was more pain than gain.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Alex WS View Post

                    And now, fifteen years later (thirteen since it's western release), the games STILL HAVEN'T CHANGED! The battle view is unchanged. The characters still haven't got any personality. You still move on a grid FFS!
                    Yep, this was my beef with the game.

                    My flat m8 played through blue and loved it, always harped on about it. So when Ruby came out I bought it and was totally addicted, racked up like 80 hours!! I bought Diamond when it came out and a few hours in I was like 'This is the same game!' and stopped playing. I've never thought about playing another since.

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                      #25
                      Never played any Pokemon game or thought it was any good. To me it's a 10 year old kids thing. I've always felt that way but maybe that's because 15 years ago when it came out I was 20 years old.

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                        #26
                        Played about half way through Blue when it came out, to see what all the fuss was about. Then I got Pokemon Stadium for the N64 as a christmas present from my game-illiterate then fiancee, and played a few hands of that just for show.

                        Can't understand the fun in the series at all, but more power to those that do.

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