Earth Defense Force 4 - The bugs are BACK!

[prinnysquad]

OK, thread rules:

Let's get a nice balance of discussion going here - desires, fears, dreams, nightmares, and cuss.

There shall be no scavenging of multiple posts during the development process as bits of tits are revealed, to be collated in a smackdown post humiliating the EDF faithful at a later date. I'm looking a QC here - author of a scandalous character assassination of someone in the EDF:IA thread.

Let's make sure you don't get your name and rank on the list below, soldiers:

BANNED
rmoxon (Sweaty Private) - who believes that fans of EDF enjoy it because it's crap, and get a superiority kick out of allying themselves with the poor and obscure.
Team Andromeda (Major Wagon) - for skanking previous titles.
FattyDodd (Colonel Sanders) - for being a chompy chower.

[nakamura]

Some say rmoxon should be banned from most threads. I find him utterly hilarious in a purely accidental way.

He is not man enough for the EDF though. True story.

[BaronSqwelch]

Shall I start a new thread for this as its probably going to die now....?

One (sensible) request from me...the guy who does the AI team mates (for when the lightweights have gone to bed) needs to do exactly the opposite to the guy who did the AI teammates in the last one.

Even after the patch, which hilariously boasted it cut down on friendly fire as a major fix, it was like being teamed with a pair of katsujinken/american apache pilot hybrids you got pummled so hard!!

I also want a giant Godzilla boss and for my little EDF guy to be bright pink and I mean BRIGHT pink!

[prinnysquad]

I would like a giant caterpillar to return.
I would like a massive Goliath Beetle armoured enemy.

EDF3 was too samey - there was no diversity of enemy type.

If EDF3 was Sandot getting to grips with the hardware, as was EDF1 on the ps2, then I hope EDF4 to have the enemy variety of EDF2.

Christ, even IA had more diversity than EDF3, so i don't want to reach the halfway point of the game again and find that it's actually over!

[nakamura]

I want one of those WTF moments like in EDF2. When that spaceship appeared it blew me away. In 2010 too so the visuals were even ****ter by then.

[prinnysquad]

Yes. The following blew me away in EDF2 -

- The spaceship unfolding out of the black hole.
- Walking through the streets and seeing a mass of red dots on the radar. Looking up and seeing a something through the haze. Moving closer, it became clear that it was a single creature, hundreds of feet long, twisting and writhing through the air and wrapping itself round buildings, firing volleys of green **** skywards.
- The realisation that said monster could be smashed into little bits, each which had an eye that followed you.
- The slaying of the little Zillas. The screen started shaking and a mother Godzilla, so big that the framerate hit minus figures, stomped into view to get you.

Games just didn't do things on this scale - these moments were jaw-dropping.

[nakamura]

I had never heard of it before a couple of years ago, from here. When I got it I couldn't believe what it was trying to do, everything was so epic. Yes it runs like crap at times but it never matters. It never gets old blowing stuff up!

[prinnysquad]

See, you get it totally. It's a game which can astound, and is pure in execution. The technical frailties never matter if you tap into this attitude.

[nakamura]

I never got IA, for me it felt like a copy of the real deal. I am not much of a current gen gamer as you know. However if this hits the UK or is online and region free for the JP version I will be part of the clan no doubt.

[QualityChimp]

Just checked and I've 3 Inferno levels left:
33 Surprise
48 Wrath
52 Inferno

Damn you, Fatty!

[prinnysquad]

Sort it out, or you're on the Banned list.

[QualityChimp]

Prinny, I'd never quote you out of context...

in 2017, I just can't seem to get the right balance of weapons right to finish those last three levels.
It's possibly my own fault a little bit. I scraped through some of the Inferno levels to get the better weapons and make finishing the tougher ones easier, but that shortcut means that I'm heavily armed, but fairly low on health, about 4000.

I did a bit of farming where I isolated one spaceship and posted sentry guns to take out the creatures being dropped, but that got dull quite fast!

If I use the split-screen mode and have a second pad to distribute a few sentry guns before dying, does the game up the number of ants coming to get me?

As for EDF4, I guess I just wanted 2017 with co-op, so anything above that is fantastic. I think the thing I liked about 2017 was the variety of locations, which lead to a mixture of tactics. There was one where you could blow up the city so you had a clear view of an ants nest without having to go over to it, another where you're at the top of a cave, so you can drop some turrets and bombs to the bottom, the final level saw me flying onto the spaceship and planting a load of bombs before falling hundreds of feet to the city below (unscathed!) and setting the bombs off.

I really liked the sense of scale too. I'll never forget the first time I saw the "King" spider in a bid to win the Lysander Z sniper rifle. Needless to say, I died...

I guess a few more bugs would be great though, but keep them under wraps until the game comes out as I don't want to ruin the surprise. A centipede would be good. A giant enemy crab rising from the depths to crush the city in its giant crustacean claws maybe?

How about some of these?








Assassin bug


Robber fly


Wolf spider with hatchlings


Ant lion


Hickory horned devil


Soldier ants! Combine and rollout!


Don't get me started on Bot flies:


I'll never forget the day I watched this documentary about Japanese giant hornets. They absolutely decimate this nest of European bees, just chomping them in half and knocking their bins over. They are the size of your thumb and can spit flesh-melting poison (usually into your eyes) and emit a pheromone that calls all the other hornets to sting you again and again until your face implodes.


As long as they don't have a giant version of that candiru fish that swims into your... *shudder*

[^Katsu]

I just hope there are some more powerful weapons with this one... Oh and that they make it tough this time!

[prinnysquad]

I'll never forget the day I watched this documentary about Japanese giant hornets. They absolutely decimate this nest of European bees, just chomping them in half and knocking their bins over. They are the size of your thumb and can spit flesh-melting poison (usually into your eyes) and emit a pheromone that calls all the other hornets to sting you again and again until your face implodes.

I hate those things. Too big and brutal for my liking. They need a kick-ass predator to rag them as they rag others. They'd be the first things kicked overboard on Noah's Ark. I saw on QI how some hives deal with them - they swarm round the hornet, covering it, like a rolling maul, and boil it alive through the heat generated.

[QualityChimp]

Yeah, that was covered on the same documentary, which is one of the most fascinating and horrifying I've ever seen!

The Japanese bees yield very little honey, so that's why they brought the European ones in, who had no idea how to defend themselves from the giant hornets. The indigninous bees are awesome though.

A scout hornet is totally milling about the hive planning how he and his mates are gonna mash up the hive big style and all the bees are like "la la la, pretend he's not here" then just as the hornet is about to scarper, the bees all shout "BUUUUNDLE!" and, as you say Prin, they all vibrate so much that the raise the hornet's internal temperature until it boils alive.

Then the bees pour beer on the graves of the fallen European homies.