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    Will the game console stick around as we know it?

    On the PS4 and Xbox One, all games will be available digitally for download. Microsoft are already implementing DRM which makes disc based games functionally indistinguishable from downloaded ones. Meanwhile, games at high street retail are dead and buried - compared to just a few short years ago, when many high streets would have 2 Games, a Gamestation, an HMV and probably a Choices and Blockbuster tucked away somewhere too.

    Meanwhile, we've just experienced an unusually long console generation, marked by the emergence of technologies like OnLive and Gaikai which allow Netflix-style instant streaming of games. These systems are still in their infancy, but they do work - maybe not that well yet, but they're only going to get better.

    At the same time, internet connection speeds have been improving across the country, in many places drastically. Even the tiny rural hamlet that my parents live in is now being fitted for 50Mb fibre, with the promise of 100Mb in the near future. The logistical barriers to the downloading and streaming of large files are disappearing in the territories which the console manufacturers rely on for the majority of their income.

    By 2020, the next gen systems will have been on the market for 6+ years, and we'll be at a similar point to the one that we're at now. PCs will very noticeably exceed the Xbone and PS4 in terms of capability, and gamers will be hungry for the new. But will 'new' come in a shiny ?400 box of high powered hardware?

    Do Microsoft and Sony want to keep making games consoles? It's doubtful. The R&D costs are enormous, the need for an attractive price point means that they often make a loss for the first year or two on each console due to the cost of components, and the machines are often unreliable and require replacement.

    But we know that they want to keep selling games, and retain their position as living room devices that people are actually willing to own. Accessories and subscriptions are a great money spinner too. So will the PS5 and the Xbox Zero consist of Apple TV/OnLive style hockey pucks, streaming games from the cloud?
    Last edited by wakka; 18-06-2013, 11:27. Reason: edited to clarify my question

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    I download pretty much everything currently. Wii U games, which cannot seemingly be bought on the high street have got me into downloading everything. I'm not really put off by the lack of any re-sale opportunity, and the space saving is beneficial to me. The only time I buy an actual game now is for 3DS, and if it's used, or old and vastly cheaper than the D/L version, which I then tend to sell off once I'm done with it. It wouldn't bother me if gaming went digital-only in the slightest. Once you're setup as far as storage goes, that's it. No waiting for the postman either.
    Kept you waiting, huh?

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      #3
      But do you think games consoles themselves will continue as we know them? Or do you think they'll be replaced by tiny, cheap boxes designed to receive streams rather than render games themselves?

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        #4
        I'd imagine so. Current-gen and next-gen are / will be hybrids. They'll continue to force D/L's on us next-gen until by next-next-gen, we'll have forgotten about buying discs. Or something.
        Kept you waiting, huh?

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          #5
          For me, they're not going to be around forever but they won't disappear as quickly as some have hoped. The mere shove towards the XBO's practices has caused an uproar so its likely that the change over will be gradual. If the big 3 moved to online services only we're still at a point in all mediums where street level presence is invaluable and market stagnation can set in very easily, nothing revigorates interest in the market like new console launches so there's a big PR element they won't want to give up too. A set top type device seems the likeliest route but spun in a way that they can still shift new versions in us.

          I still feel there'll be another generation of consoles after this new one, global markets are moving fast but not so fast as to completely cut off the physical medium. After that though there's always Nintendo. They'll have at the very least another two to three consoles under their belt.

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            #6
            Unless Internet infrastructure improves to the point where streaming games is indistinguishable from the real deal I think we will see another generation of consoles.
            It's handy to have a box with local processing and graphics hardware as the customer buys that and saves the cost of a server for the publisher.

            R&D costs for the forthcoming generation must have been a fair bit lower the the previous generation. Continuing to build systems based off commodity hardware could keep costs down.

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              #7
              I'll be bloody 50 by whatever the next gen is so i don't even care.

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                #8
                Good points all round. Would anyone like a system where you pay a monthly fee (say ?15 a month) for unlimited access to the system's entire library, plus one off charges for priority access to the latest titles? All delivered to you instantly via a streaming system - let's say for the sake of argument that it provides a smooth experience with minimal image degradation.

                Guessing not many on here would like that as I know we do love our games in boxes, but it would be convenient.

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                  #9
                  That's pretty much what OnLive offers already. In fact, exactly what it offers.
                  Kept you waiting, huh?

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                    #10
                    Interesting topic. I think we're still a fair way from the death of discs & carts, but mobile phones have proved that you can be plenty successful without needing a physical object to receive your software on. As you've already said, Microsoft are taking great steps to blur the lines on whether a disc is the actual product, or just a quick method of installing the license you've bought, and I think despite revelling in the positive PR of avoiding this route, Sony will no doubt be watching very closely.

                    To take a corporation's perspective, the biggest fear I would have is not pissing off the vocal minority who love boxes, but rather the lack of support they'd get from bricks and mortar stores if they start cutting back on ways to upsell and keep customers coming back into the store to get the latest game.

                    I don't have much faith in OnLive's business model or their scalability to take on the whole market, but applying the tech to smaller chunks of gaming and gradually pushing through established mediums seems sensible. On this front I think Sony have made decent steps (through both PS+ and Gaikai) in building people's confidence for digital.

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by J0e Musashi View Post
                      I download pretty much everything currently. Wii U games, which cannot seemingly be bought on the high street have got me into downloading everything. I'm not really put off by the lack of any re-sale opportunity, and the space saving is beneficial to me. The only time I buy an actual game now is for 3DS, and if it's used, or old and vastly cheaper than the D/L version, which I then tend to sell off once I'm done with it. It wouldn't bother me if gaming went digital-only in the slightest. Once you're setup as far as storage goes, that's it. No waiting for the postman either.
                      I'm not really concerned by a lack of re-sale either and it's great to have you collection sitting on a hard drive, but have two big concerns with digital only.

                      1. Lack of competition leading to higher prices. I look at the prices on the Playstation Store and they're sometimes selling games for ?50 that I know I could buy on a disc for around ?20. What if download was the *only* option?

                      2. Biggest concern: The manufacturers can pull the plug on your ENTIRE collection! As we're getting to the end of this generation, I'm increasingly realising that there are no guarantees as to how long you'll be able to re-download your games. I was doing some research on preserving my PS3 content and it appears that due to protection when the drive is formatted, there's not really any way to make a backup. If your hard drive (or console) fails, the only way to get things back is to download them again...and if those downloads aren't there, it's ALL gone! Someone may come up with a way to beat the copy protection, but these things were designed to be uncrackable and at some point they might succeed. I also don't really think I should have to search internet back alleys to find a way of playing something that I legally purchased.

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                        #12
                        I have 20ms pings which is fairly low, with 80KB/s upstream and 6Mb down (700KB/s?). Onlive was useless for twitch style games, like driving and flight sims. Unless they can get pings down to 1ms through magic, we will always need a powerful box in the home.

                        I live 10 mins from a city center but there are no plans to speed up my 6Mb/s for the next 5 years at least. Downloading a 9GB DVD game would be very dull, let alone Bluray style games (10 hours?), so next-next gen had better have discs.... People down the other end of my road are even slower, being further away from the exchange.

                        At my father in law's place in Devon (5 mins from a major town center), he gets 2Mb/s because he is a long way from the exchange. I keep banging on about this, but the lack of consistent speeds across the country will become a major factor in where people will live soon. It's not worth the corps rolling out the services to the few people. Only the many. Unlike water which is mandated as a basic need and is pretty much the same pressure everywhere.
                        Last edited by charlesr; 21-06-2013, 12:44.

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                          #13
                          Gaming probably will go download/streaming only one day and on that day I'll hang up my gaming boots and take up sewing. Or rock climbing. Or something.

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