US voice actors approve strike action

[Team Andromeda]

"In the old days" - i.e. not now; the industry and public tastes have diversified.

And Tomb Raider 1? Lara said about 12 words in the entire game! You can't compare that to Uncharted.

You might skip past cutscenes but you can't just apply that thinking to everyone.

Core in the old days were more than Tomb Raider and yet the staff even after working mega hard shifts still were expect (and most prob didn't get paid for it) to do the voice work . Uncharted is the big exception and maybe MGS series but for people they'll don't care for even watch most of the story and voice work in games.

[randombs]

Of course they will. I'm sure even people who complain about bad stories won't just skip cutscenes the first time.

Also, a lot of voice work could be something that's more noticeable by its absence.

[Team Andromeda]

There should be a program like wife swap where they take someone who dismisses a profession and make them try it for a little while to see if they change their tune.

Really what next paramedics , firefighters getting paid stunt pay for driving , ? when it's just seen as part of their job, John Moston getting stunt pay for climbing to the top tier and being exposed to all the weather elements . I have more of a problem with the unions here and in most cases they are the problem . Not dissing a profession but It's a profession they chose to work in and I would no doubt say there's of profession commentators and journalists Who work long hours get paid peanuts and where they voice is their job and just get on with it because it's what they love and what they chose to do.

I happened to think the script and story written to films and games get a raw deal most of the time and also get little reward or credit not matter how much money a film or game makes

[Asura]

Sorry TA, but that's not how the world works.

People get paid according to market forces, and unions can (and should) influence those market forces for the benefit of their members. If not, the people who pocket all the money are the few investors.

Everyone should campaign for more money, and do it regularly. Believing that doing so will cause some kind of downfall of society/industry is a lie perpetuated by the rich to discourage the poor.

[QualityChimp]

@Team Andromeda
Ah, but the issue is that the goalposts are moving.

Usually people strike when their contracts are unfairly changed: doctors working on zero-pay contracts; teachers having to work for longer for less money; midwives having to work unpaid overtime; Tube drivers having to maintain the new 24-hour tube serve; Firefighters getting their pensions reduced and so on.

People always object to people striking because it affects their daily lives (that's the point of a strike, durrr) and because they always think everybody else has it better than them.

In the case of the voice actors, yes, it's a profession they've chosen, but when employers move the goalposts and start adding extra things for the same money, unless they take action, this will become the accepted norm.

[Decider-VT]

I'm a bit disgusted that Nolan North isn't backing them. He's leading his industry and his stance seems to reflect a "well, I'm alright" attitude. Lending his support to other voice actors could really benefit them all but it seems like he doesn't want to rock the boat.

[endo]

I thought it would be like session musicians, where you're paid to do your bit, but you get paid for the job, not the success of the song you're working on.

There's loads of examples of people being paid a small sum on famous records:
http://www.theguardian.com/music/mus...s-baker-street

This. It still makes me angry to think of how little recognition Bob Holness (RIP) got for his sterling sax work.

[dataDave]

Didn't Van Halen do the Beat It backing and solo as a favour? What a mug.

[QualityChimp]

[MENTION=3220]endo[/MENTION] I love that urban myth. The other one was that Andi Peters and Tony Hart were lovers.
[MENTION=1482]dataDave[/MENTION] Van Halen did it for free, despite his bandmates saying he was a chump, but he said he does what he wants and that's what he wanted. I guess sometimes it's not just about the money.
It's a scorching solo though, isn't it? So much so, that I heard it set fire to an amp in the recording studio!

/threadderaliedsorry

[The Moleman]

Royalty payments are only part of the strike action, the vote to strike is motivated by the general ****ty and deteriorating working conditions. Considering the video gane industry is by orders of magnitude the highest earning entertainment format is it really that unreasonable for voice talent to want working conditions on par with the film industry? I think not.

You can cherry pick examples of when the dev team done a good job voice acting but it is literally a tiny % that were actually good. The reality of amateur actors was piss poor voice work, anyone for a Jill sandwich?

[Asura]

You can cherry pick examples of when the dev team done a good job voice acting but it is literally a tiny % that were actually good. The reality of amateur actors was piss poor voice work, anyone for a Jill sandwich?

Well Moleman, if you insist - you are, after all, the master of unlocking.

[Team Andromeda]

You can cherry pick examples of when the dev team done a good job voice acting but it is literally a tiny % that were actually good. The reality of amateur actors was piss poor voice work, anyone for a Jill sandwich?

I'm not cherry picking , one person done most of the voices for the Conkers game and did a far better job than most fully paid voice overs artists , whitest also designing and directing the game . Most here seem to say that Tomb Raider and Resident Evil 2 are the best game in the series , so Much for the professional voice talent used in RE 5, 6 and Tomb Raider reboot *rollseyes*

[Team Andromeda]

People get paid according to market forces, and unions can (and should) influence those market forces for the benefit of their members. If not, the people who pocket all the money are the few investors.

Sorry Unions are a pain in the ass and the trouble in most cases .

[Team Andromeda]

@Team Andromeda


Usually people strike when their contracts are unfairly changed: doctors working on zero-pay contracts; teachers having to work for longer for less money; midwives having to work unpaid overtime; Tube drivers having to maintain the new 24-hour tube serve; Firefighters getting their pensions reduced and so on

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I'm sorry Doctors have some of the best contracts out of any group , and don't me started on the rail Union . And let's all remember the fire union boss spending nearly a grand on a night out , while his members were on strike . I have little time for unions myself sorry