Presumably each game in the Mario Collection will cost $60 each as well now
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Originally posted by randombs View PostThere isn't a comparison. I think Zaki meant that Pikmin 3 on the Switch wasn't any more of a middle finger to Wii-U owners than the Uncharted Collection on PS4 was to PS3 owners.
Pikmin 3 on Switch, along with Mario Kart, Tropical Freeze, and NSMB, likely to be the only iteration of that series on the Switch.
That's the difference.
So people who bought the Wii U, including me, don't have anything new to look forward to on the Switch in some of Nintendo's biggest series. And it's the Nintendo series which are the main reason anyone buys a Nintendo console.Last edited by DeathAdder; 06-08-2020, 11:21.
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Well, if we're talking middle fingers here, then you could argue it's switch owners getting shafted, not Wii U owners.
I have both consoles, but I'd rather just have everything on one system right now.
Tropical freeze disappeared for a few weeks from the Wii U eshop when the switch version came out. It's back now.
Those of you who have had a Wii U since 2012, why didn't you buy pikmin 3 already?!
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Originally posted by Marius View PostUncharted Collection was in addition to an Uncharted game on PS4.
Pikmin 3 on Switch, along with Mario Kart, Tropical Freeze, and NSMB, likely to be the only iteration of that series on the Switch.
That's the difference.
So people who bought the Wii U, including me, don't have anything new to look forward to on the Switch in some of Nintendo's biggest series. And it's the Nintendo series which are the main reason anyone buys a Nintendo console.
A cursory glance at hardware sales figures puts the Switch at ~60m right now vs Wii-U's ~15m overall. Even if every single Wii-U owner bought a Switch, that still leaves 75% of Switch owners who never had a Wii-U. That's a huge potential market to sell these games to. I'm oversimplifying things, but that's almost like free money.
The fact that these games were on the Wii-U isn't a good enough yardstick to judge how well they could sell on Switch because of the huge difference in their respective markets.
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It's Switch owners who also owned a Wii U who are getting shafted.
If, like importaku, you never owned a Wii U, then this is great news - a Nintendo game that you have never owned is being released.
If you own both, then this is a sod, because it means that there probably won't be a Pikmin game on your new console that you haven't played already.
I'm more than happy for games to be rereleased, but not when that turns out to be the only iteration of that series on the newer console. Hence I'm more annoyed at, say, NSMB and Pikmin than Unchartered.
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Originally posted by randombs View PostI assumed they've been porting these games over for a whole new audience who hadn't already bought a Wii-U.
A cursory glance at hardware sales figures puts the Switch at ~60m right now vs Wii-U's ~15m overall. Even if every single Wii-U owner bought a Switch, that still leaves 75% of Switch owners who never had a Wii-U. That's a huge potential market to sell these games to. I'm oversimplifying things, but that's almost like free money.
The fact that these games were on the Wii-U isn't a good enough yardstick to judge how well they could sell on Switch because of the huge difference in their respective markets.
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Originally posted by Neon Ignition View PostThis could well be the new norm for Nintendo now also. Switch 2 largely fuelled by Super Mario Odyssey Deluxe and Animal Crossing: New Horizons+ rather than new entries.
Edit: For the record, it stinks that we don’t have a unique Switch Mario Kart. But I will never be annoyed by not getting a NSMB game. Pikmin, I can take or leave.Last edited by Dogg Thang; 06-08-2020, 13:08.
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Realistically we'll definitely see less porting on Switch 2 but the question remains of what they will replace them with. The ports have doubly served on Switch to revitalise last gen games lost on the previous system but also to plug large gaps in Switch's first party output. Hopefully Nintendo stops coasting soon to avoid a repeat of what happened following the Wii's success.
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Personally, I suspect we’ll just see the gaps. We had a huge drought on the 3DS - impressive lineup by the very end but first party releases were very, very slow and, yes, included remasters. The WiiU didn’t have all that much and, as you say, there are very notable absences on the Switch and large holes. And even some of those that made it out (the Yoshi game jumps to mind), I didn’t feel were hugely impressive. But that’s the pattern. I think no matter what the form of the next system, anyone expecting a steady stream of great first party titles from Nintendo will be disappointed.
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To be fair to the WiiU in death though, it's inflation in price is because it's also a counter point to the Switch. You can pick one up and have much greater B/C support and much of the Switch's first party output on a budget. The two systems are much closer than they get credit for. That's without hacking one either, then the WiiU is probably the single greatest Nintendo console ever.
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