Grand Theft Auto III, Vice City & San Andreas Demastered

[importaku]

The only good thing coming from all this is the memes & the severe roasting of rockstar and grove street games online, it's more entertaining than the game could ever be.

[Lebowski]

It's an observation, rather than me having a go at anyone.

I wasn't saying you where having a go more just stating that i think a lot of gamers are not always super aware that a game has had a team working really hard on its visual style to make that consistent. When things go really wrong (like they have with GTA remastered) you really do notice, its not just the engine and the performance that's gone wrong here the whole look and feel of the game is wrong.

[importaku]

Given there were rumours that Red Dead Redemption was the next remaster coming next year I can only imagine (given that would be infinitely more work) it's dead if it ever existed now

They already working on it

[Cassius_Smoke]

Rumours are they used some form of AI to do the remastering hence the characters looking like sims trash with noodle arms. Loads of spelling errors on textures & other quite appauling quality work i'd say it looks like some unofficial mod but i would not insult modders like that as i have seen the patches they have created and it's way beyond what this release is. The original games look rough in their unchanged form & yet they still look better over what trash was put out.

Western devs really seem to be the ones putting out the jankiest crap.

You are touching on something here though.
Developers are all tripping each other up. No single dev is the sole cause, but combined, players will be very skeptical to releases. A string of **** after **** after **** erodes faith. Eventually people will turn away from them.

[Neon Ignition]

Hey Take Two! Pulling your finger out your backside and getting GTA6 out to market isn't suddenly looking so tempting to keep putting off is it?

[Nu-Eclipse]

Ok, I've been dumb and preordered a copy. Cancelling.

Corrected.

[importaku]

You are touching on something here though.
Developers are all tripping each other up. No single dev is the sole cause, but combined, players will be very skeptical to releases. A string of **** after **** after **** erodes faith. Eventually people will turn away from them.

I wont touch anything from bethesda, ubisoft, EA, blizzard, activision anymore, hell you can add rockstar to the list as well now, only indies from western devs from now on as they may be smaller budget games but they at least try. There was a game called lost in random on switch that looked really interesting i was almost gonna get it till the trailer popped up the ea logo at the end and that was it, totally killed my interest.

[wakka]

I mean to be fair your shelves weren't exactly filled with Activision and Rockstar efforts before now.

[importaku]

I mean to be fair your shelves weren't exactly filled with Activision and Rockstar efforts before now.

The last rockstar game i bought was red dead 2 that came bundeled with my ps4 before that was gta V on x360, as for activision don't think i own a single game from them. They don't make stuff that appeal to me to be honest a lot of what passes for AAA gaming is the same it's not my thing at all so i find it easy to avoid a lot of the western devs, for bethesda i own quite a few of their games but i stopped at skyrim on psvr and i only got that for the novelty of seeing it in vr i have been long done with with elder scrolls games for some time now.

[Asura]

To put it another way, a lot of gamers seem to actually want the CG Jabba. It’s just what we’re getting is the CG Jabba from that first special edition.

I think gamers expect 3D games to generally look the same, only with an HD rendering resolution and unshakeable 60fps (or higher).

But they're also not a mainstream consumer when it comes to GTA, which is a brand like FIFA - it appeals to a broader range of people, i.e. the larger group from the 2000-2010s who, if asked, would say "no, I don't like videogames, but I do have GTA and FIFA".

I'm not sure of what that more mainstream consumer would want in this scenario. Your CGI Jabba example might be apt.

[wakka]

Yeah, good point. Actually I see better now what Dogg was getting at.

EDIT: in title, demastered

[Brad]

But what if they put loads of effort in

They didn’t mate. Search deep inside yourself and you know. They didn’t.

Unless, they had never programmed a computer before and they were learning programming and this was their first exercise and they were being taught remotely during lockdown, and the teacher was also learning programming from a book he got at a car boot sale and that book was in a foreign language and was actually a book on nomadic cooking.

[Brad]

Look at red dead redemption 2. LOOK AT IT. That is Rockstar standard. Regardless of whether you actually like that game rockstar created an absolute masterpiece and kinda reset the bar for what AAA means. Then look at this. It’s like some sort of accident has happened. I can barely believe it’s not all some awful mistake.

[Dogg Thang]

Oh I’m not saying they did. My point (replying to Asura) was that effort does not equal price point, nor should it. What’s actually being sold should. And honestly, if this were cheaper that wouldn’t make a half-assed version okay.

[Hirst]

Remember how EA used to be a sign of mostly really high-quality games and then at some point something clicked and they figured out you could just churn out rubbish and it'd get bought up as long as they hyped it enough? Rockstar have been looking towards that path for a while and I think they've now firmly established that they're walking down it. This is clearly just a quick Christmas cash grab. I note that it has been emphasized quite heavily that it isn't from one of their main development teams but a subcontractor, which I feel is on purpose so people won't doubt the quality of the games coming from the "proper" teams. I think this is something Rockstar have pushed so they could get this product out whilst somewhat covering their backsides. End of the day, they signed it off so the buck stops with them.

As much as there's going to be a huge fuss about GTA6, I'm expecting to be a really hollow let down once they actually pull their finger out and make it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's even online-only with no single player campaign, they're making money hand over fist with GTA Online. And I bet it will have microtransactions like you wouldn't believe. I think the time of truly good GTA games is over.