Xbox Series S/X: Thread 04

[teddymeow]

Xbox Series X price increasing in various countries

Up to £479.99 in the UK - same as PS5.

[Neon Ignition]

https://www.theverge.com/2023/6/21/23768400/microsoft-xbox-series-x-xbox-game-pass-price-increase

Game Pass gets a price hike

[nonny]

Been expecting the price to go up just before Starfield launches so not really surprised.

But disappointing the hardware is increasing as well.

[Cassius_Smoke]

All the Xbox fans when Sony upped the price were laughing. 'Sony being money grabbing bastards!' they yelled.

Xbox fans now 'Yeah totally the right thing for MS.'

[fishbowlhead]

All the Xbox fans when Sony upped the price were laughing. 'Sony being money grabbing bastards!' they yelled.

Xbox fans now 'Yeah totally the right thing for MS.'

Obviously. It still makes me chuckle though.

[hudson]

Any minute now... Game pass is gonna explode into action. *Pokes it with stick

[nonny]

All the Xbox fans when Sony upped the price were laughing. 'Sony being money grabbing bastards!' they yelled.

Xbox fans now 'Yeah totally the right thing for MS.'

Nah increasing the Series X price is something I disagree with completely. I realise it's probably necessary in the current market and with your competitor already doing the same... but I still don't think they should have done it and especially not in markets outside the US... and then left the US price untouched.

One thing it will do is give that new Series S 1TB more wiggle room in terms of cost difference, but still... wrong move for me.

The game pass increase was always expected. They haven't touched pricing over several years and the value proposition is about to increase dramatically Starfield coming (and staying) on the service.

[Neon Ignition]

Yep, increasing the price when you're distantly behind your competition and more than capable of eating the cost is a bad look. The price increases of both systems and stubborness of the pricing on Switch should also be a very clear bell on why Pro models would be a terrible decision

[dataDave]

Indeed. These things should be coming down in price at this stage, not going up. You’d think they’d want more onboarding in order to shovel out boatloads more software, especially in Nintendo’s case (and more GP subs respectively). They could easily fast-track their way to 165M and becoming the best selling console of all time while selling 300M more games. I don’t reckon we’ll see a Switch successor until 2026. The other two much later than that.

[MartyG]

I think it shows that both the PS5 and Series consoles had marginal or (more likely) quite large loss-leading prices at launch neither company wants to widen with increasing manufacturing costs.

Either that or they're all being greedy sods.

[nonny]

Right now the only current console seeing decent sales is probably the Series S. I see them regularly 2nd hand for £150-180 and even at direct retail you find some going way below the RRP.

I would imagine the new core black 1TB model coming in at £299 will see the current white one discontinued pretty soon and falling even more (£120?)...

The Switch just seems to keep going thanks to limited editions and pack-in titles that still have elevated pricing (Mario Odysseys etc...)

I think I got really lucky snatching a 2nd hand pristine OLED model for £210 from a cash convertors on eBay... otherwise 2nd hand they seem to still hover around £250+

[Neon Ignition]

It's a shame they couldn't do a Nintendo Switch Lite with mini-dock support

[fishbowlhead]

I think it shows that both the PS5 and Series consoles had marginal or (more likely) quite large loss-leading prices at launch neither company wants to widen with increasing manufacturing costs.

Either that or they're all being greedy sods.

By all accounts Sony we’re breaking even/very small profit on PS5 consoles, with the rise in manufacturing costs that went into a loss, will be same for SeriesX.

Everything has gone up manufacturing wise across the planet, whatever you make, wherever you are, costs are constantly rising.

[Lebowski]

As the tech gets older component cost come down, this doesn't seem to be the case at the moment, where in some weird bubble where manufacturing is so backed up that the costs are now super high to cope with demand.

I can't believe that the switch isn't massively lucrative for Nintendo though their selling a 7 year old tablet now and haven't cut the rrp once.

[dataDave]

As the tech gets older component cost come down, this doesn't seem to be the case at the moment, where in some weird bubble where manufacturing is so backed up that the costs are now super high to cope with demand.

I can't believe that the switch isn't massively lucrative for Nintendo though their selling a 7 year old tablet now and haven't cut the rrp once.

No matter how good the profits they’re making with the hardware are, it’s going to absolutely dwarf to the point of obscurity compared to their income from software.