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    Yep, and one of the victories that Game Pass was trumpeted for since its launch is revenue. It massively scaled up their revenue during the dire XBO days and shifted their focus, leading to its prioritisation. Taking on companies like Activision have absolutely ballooned their revenue rates. The division is doing huge numbers but when you lay out where the flood of money is coming and going there's a huge millstone dragging them down throughout and that's the hardware. I would imagine that taking on and now ringfencing Call of Duty away from Game Pass goes a long way to mitigating their need for Game Pass entirely which down the line will just mean better sales figures for their expensive tentpoles too.

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      Originally posted by Neon Ignition View Post
      Yep, and one of the victories that Game Pass was trumpeted for since its launch is revenue. It massively scaled up their revenue during the dire XBO days and shifted their focus, leading to its prioritisation. Taking on companies like Activision have absolutely ballooned their revenue rates. The division is doing huge numbers but when you lay out where the flood of money is coming and going there's a huge millstone dragging them down throughout and that's the hardware. I would imagine that taking on and now ringfencing Call of Duty away from Game Pass goes a long way to mitigating their need for Game Pass entirely which down the line will just mean better sales figures for their expensive tentpoles too.
      The rumours about the changes lay a lot of this at the door of the CFO who has been criticized in the past for not really understanding the Xbox division or the game industry as a whole. I suppose as a money man you're looking at how to make the most from your assets, limiting where you can sell to protect your struggling share of the console market really doesn't make sense when your studios where more lucrative as third party developers.

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        People are now spinning to a possible rebranding of Game Pass now being called MS game pass (not Xbox gp)

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          They could rebrand it but it'll still get nowhere near Switch or PS5 as a service so is dead at the knees.


          More revenue saved as Toys for Bob gets gutted


          And the speculation has also now reached someone elses ears


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              The brand damage this has done already with the very people that push Xbox onto other gamers is astronomical, and it can’t be undone.

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                What is crazy is the misinformation... that "Microsoft Game Pass" stuff was confirmed as an error from Gamestop but still got reported all over the place like it was some indication of intent.

                Waiting till next week for actual direct confirmation of plans seems like an error already as the media (and social media) seems content with spinning whatever new rumour gets dreamt up.

                Whatever this actually turns out to be officially the discourse is pathetic at the moment.

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                  It's been really notable in the last day or so that we're well past of getting reliable info. Things that are coming up now feel like people spouting clickbait to fill the void which is bad but also continues to come back on MS as well because there really shouldn't be that radio silence. If they aren't beginning a transition to third party it really should be very easy to just say that the current speculation around Xbox is false and they will provide updates in due course, the lack of any form of denial is deafening and fuelling the whirlwind which is why Xbox Series S/X is dead, no matter what they do the brand damage is cementing no recovery in fortunes for it this gen at bare minimum.

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                    So we've officially reached the crazy story stage of this cycle, Not seen the "Microsoft Game Pass" stuff, so that's news to me

                    If you look back to when all these rumours started their was talk of HI-Fi rush coming to the Nintendo Switch that kind of made sense, ORI and the blind Forrest had already been ported so it wasn't unprecedented for games that fit to come to the switch.

                    The Sea of Thieves on PlayStation rumours followed and kind of made sense too, an older big multiplayer game like that still doing well could find a whole new audience on a new console.

                    Where it all blew up was with the Starfield stuff they could have shut this down and obviously are planning a big showy announcement next week or would have shut it down already, that they aren't willing to move this news up is a bit silly and it's feeding the news cycle as people want to know more now so are latching on to rumours that are getting pushed out without decent sources. It's all clicks and advertising revenue, so the rumour sites win.
                    Last edited by Lebowski; 08-02-2024, 12:15.

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                      My mate Gavin from the pub says they're deleting all the Games With Gold from your hard drive and making you rebuy them and if you own the physical game, the firmware upgrade will automatically eject the disc until you rebuy the digital version!

                      If you hold the disc in, Bill Gates will come to your house and smash the disc!

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                        I was about to call you out on this chimpy, who is this gavin bloke anyway but then I re-read and saw that he's 'from the pub' so this is probably legit.

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                          More fires appearing when I look through the window of my 56k modem...

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                            Eurogamer next week:


                            Sony Celebrates Record Revenue Results Thanks To Scale Down in First Party Studio Software Development
                            Jim Ryan started the fire-ing

                            Slew of Notable First Party Games Finally Announced for PS5
                            Good things come to those who wait... out the competition

                            Microsoft Celebrates Cementing Xbox's Huge Success as the Industry's Most Successful Third Party Console
                            If you can't beat them, join them

                            No Switch 2 as Nintendo Announces December Release for Wind Waker Remastered on Switch
                            Tears of an Era Kingdom





                            Side note - For the first time in a very long time I browsed through the PC Game Pass library. It's still smaller than the Xbox one but I'd missed that it seems to have at least become better at offering like-for-like on more third party additions. Turns out I won't need to buy Ishin and solely need to pick up the RDR remaster at some point so won't be saying goodbye to anything on Series X

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                              Cannot even begin to imagine how arrogant Sony are going to be when they roll into PS6. It'll be the PS3 launch on steroids

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                                Originally posted by wakka View Post
                                Cannot even begin to imagine how arrogant Sony are going to be when they roll into PS6. It'll be the PS3 launch on steroids
                                Be like all this again...

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