question about pal 60 mode

[eastyy]

i have a ps2 uk version when i select 60hz in my games that support them the picture is black and white but full screen my tv only has one scart socket do i need a diffrent lead thanks

[wod]

yes use an rgb scart lead. the reason its in b&w is that sony chose to use ntsc for there 60hz mode which doesn't work with some tv resulting in b&w pic

[eastyy]

hmm i got a blaze scart lead

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?ProductCode=PT0169

but still it comes up black and white

[yashiro]

Make sure the switch on the cable is set to RGB mode.
I know this cable works. If it's not the switch then it's your TV.

(The switch is near the PS2 end -- and make sure your scart plug is in the right socket on your TV -- and the TV is in AV mode.)

[DjSatansfury]

It'll probably be like mine, cheap ****ty tv that doesnt support NTSC RGB

[wod]

rgb doesn't have ntsc or pal

[eastyy]

hmm my tv isent that old it has 2 scarts and is a 21 inch mitsubishi

[jimtendo]

Make sure you plug it in 'AV1' otherwise you get composite when plugged into AV2

[DjSatansfury]

rgb doesn't have ntsc or pal

I am aware rgb doesnt have ntsc or pal. However my tv will output a PAL60 (RGB) picture, but will not when using an NTSC (RGB) picture.

[Papercut]

Then your TV isn't using an RGB signal.

NTSC and PAL differ in three ways - color encoding method, color signal carrier frequency, and refresh rate.

When using RGB only the refresh rate is different.

If you are seeing a black and white picture then your TV is receiving an NTSC composite or s video connection and doesn't know how to decode NTSC color information.

[eastyy]

is there any converters i can get ? i may get a import ps2 and i think it would only worko n ntsc

[superkully]

Wha!?! You want to get a converter instead of sorting your lead?

You are _not_ getting an RGB signal, as Papercut and a million ntsc-uk'ers have explained NTSC & PAL are different ways of encoding colour so you can get it through one input. With RGB there is no need for any encoding, so there is no difference between a NTSC machine outputting RGB or a PAL machine outputting RGB @ 60Hz.

You've either faffed which socket you've put the PS2 lead into, your DVD/Game switch is knackered, you've been sold a non-RGB lead (this has happened to me before), you need to select RGB in your TV menu (unlikely) or perhaps you're going through some input selecter box which doesn't have the RGB toggle 'on'?

[Bassman]

Is there a setup menu for the TV which sets one of the Scarts for RGB? Unlikely I suppose.

[Saurian]

It's probably the cable at fault - Blaze just buy up 3rd party cables from HK and put their name on them, he probably got one tha's from a batch of cables wired wrong or not wired for RGB at all.

I've seen Blaze cables wired for RGB but with no voltage to pin16 of the SCART so your TV wont autoswitch to RGB mode anyway.

http://shop.gameplay.co.uk/webstore/productpage.asp?ProductCode=PT0169

Before you start messing about with image quality killing convertors, return yours and try the above cable plugged into AV1.

[horribleman]

Game's own brand ones, although ?15 have a RGB/Composite switch (labelled as Game/DVD) and phono leads for the sound and they auto switch.