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    PAL vs NTSC Playsation 2 question

    I know there was a post like this on the old forum, but for the life of me I cannot find it! So forgive me if anyone is having to re-cycle their answer ...

    I'm totally new to the PS2 world and the excitement of WE8 (slowdowns aside) has got me thinking about getting one.

    Like most of you, I'm quite fussy when it comes to full screen, fast, sharp visual quality and regional compatibility (as a Gamecube man, I have a region switch modded machine running NTSC games only via VGA or component).

    1. I noted that the PS2 has a PAL60 option on PAL games and can output RGB. Will an NTSC game running on a PAL PS2 therefore provide the same visual experience and speed as if it were running on an NTSC machine?

    2. So assuming I get a modded PAL PS2 that by-passes region protection, is there any reason (advantages) for opting for a JPN or USA NTSC PS2 instead?

    Note: I'm not too bothered about PAL game compatibility nor going online, I'm just thinking it's easier to get hold of a PAL PS2 walking into a shop, versus having to import a unit and risk customs hassles etc.

    Cheers

    #2
    1. I noted that the PS2 has a PAL60 option on PAL games and can output RGB. Will an NTSC game running on a PAL PS2 therefore provide the same visual experience and speed as if it were running on an NTSC machine?
    The PS2 will boot software in the software's native format (IE NTSC game will run NTSC on a PAL machine), there is no PAL60 mode - you are at the mercy of the developer there. PAL PS2 software is a ****ing joke.

    2. So assuming I get a modded PAL PS2 that by-passes region protection, is there any reason (advantages) for opting for a JPN or USA NTSC PS2 instead?
    None. Only reason I can see for getting an import machine is to keep it virgin and use it for the online service.

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      #3
      I couldn't be happier about my chipped PAL PS2, it plays everything without any issues and is a half decent DVD player. Just don't play DVD rips and you've got a tank. Do not buy a US PS2, they are shoddy and break all the time. Ever wondered why it's only on American forums that people constantly bitch about disc read errors and dead drives? There you go.

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        #4
        Thanks guys. So why do some people on the forum have a JPN PS2 as well as a PAL one? Perhaps just collecting reasons ... EDIT: No longer confused, just re-read Saurian's edit regarding online etc.

        Originally posted by innovator
        Just don't play DVD rips and you've got a tank.
        I'm not sure what that means ... DVD-Rs damage the laser?

        Thanks
        Last edited by Londonner; 04-08-2004, 15:53.

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          #5
          It certainly puts a greater strain on it, yes.
          Lie with passion and be forever damned...

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            #6
            DVD rip = a DVD game changed around to fit onto a CD.

            Straight DVD to DVD or CD to CD copies are safe as long as you don't use cheap media.

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              #7
              Running PAL games on an NTSC machine or vice versa can end up outputting a funny halfway signal that some displays may have issues with. However, component and RGB do not encode the colours, so the problem is removed. So in your case it's probably a non-issue, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.

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                #8
                A chipped PAL PS2 is the way to go, followed by a chipped JPN deck.

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                  #9
                  My chipped US PS2 has been going strong for 3 years now, not had a problem with it.

                  Guess it's just fat Americans spilling sauces and sitting on their PS2's >_<

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                    #10
                    Reason I'd have two different machines is that it makes me feel sick to think that someone other than the company that makes the machines has hand their hands inside my electrics. I think it weakens it too, there's a greater chance of some sort of ESD related problem.
                    Also, I don't want copies and I don't like the way that side of the games hardware-hacks has gone - I suspect that it might be easier to get a proper swap disk that ejects the tray if it weren't for greedy evil chippers.

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                      #11
                      Will someone PLEASE tell me where I can buy a NEW PAL MODDED PS2, I've tried everywhere and noone seems to do them anymore cos of the courts.

                      Can anyone PM me the details of someone who can?

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Tom Salter
                        My chipped US PS2 has been going strong for 3 years now, not had a problem with it.

                        Guess it's just fat Americans spilling sauces and sitting on their PS2's >_<

                        And the fact they bitch endlessly like the companies owe them something

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by killing_floor
                          Reason I'd have two different machines is that it makes me feel sick to think that someone other than the company that makes the machines has hand their hands inside my electrics. I think it weakens it too, there's a greater chance of some sort of ESD related problem.
                          Also, I don't want copies and I don't like the way that side of the games hardware-hacks has gone - I suspect that it might be easier to get a proper swap disk that ejects the tray if it weren't for greedy evil chippers.
                          Heh... not every day I read a post that I have to disagree with instantly, but if you saw the kind of sloppy assembly in a lot of new PS2s that I see when I've opened them up, you'd feel even sicker... I've repaired new machines fresh out of the box, that have come to me DOA... Sony build quality is majorly poor these days - I mean come on, they switch maufacture from Japan to China, and drop the wholesale pre-distribution price of the unit to approximately ?45... the things are made like ****. You've got way more chance of causing an ESD related problem by using your PS2 on a synthetic carpet in your house, or by using 3rd party accessories, than you do by having a professional installer / engineer open it up

                          I don't mean to sound argumentative, but if you knew how inherently poor the whole CD / DVD controller mech in a PS2 is, especially in the new v9 / v10 model with the ill-fated LA chip, then any kind of mod that involves disc swapping isn't going to do it any favours.

                          A properly installed 3rd gen modchip is in many ways a superior piece of engineering than the PS2s own onboard authentication system. What gives modding a bad name is incompetant installers, and freeloaders who burn games off the internet onto 10p unbranded CDRs and play them alll day and night, and then wonder why the laser is toast a few weeks later. No such thing as a free lunch

                          Anyway, kind of techinical as I, and pretty much everyone else, am not doing PS2s any more now the law states otherwise

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                            #14
                            1. I noted that the PS2 has a PAL60 option on PAL games and can output RGB. Will an NTSC game running on a PAL PS2 therefore provide the same visual experience and speed as if it were running on an NTSC machine?
                            The PAL games that support 60Hz actually run in NTSC, and not PAL60. Which is no problem.

                            2. So assuming I get a modded PAL PS2 that by-passes region protection, is there any reason (advantages) for opting for a JPN or USA NTSC PS2 instead?
                            Certain mod chips on PAL PS2's don't run import PS1 games properly. They are slow and bordered. If you don't play PS1 games, that shouldn't be a problem. But if you do, I would suggest taking it safe and getting an NTSC unit. NTSC units can't play PAL games though, but I'm sure that is of no loss to you since you've already mentioned you want the games borderless and full speed anyway.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by innovator
                              Do not buy a US PS2, they are shoddy and break all the time. Ever wondered why it's only on American forums that people constantly bitch about disc read errors and dead drives? There you go.
                              Funny that, it's only the Americans that moan about Xbox Dirty Disc Errors also ....

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