RGB on Gamecube

[lostn]

The PAL gamecube supports RGB right, while the NTSC ones don't, correct?

How do you get the PAL GC to run in RGB mode? Does Nintendo sell cables for it? Is there any official way of doing it? Does that Component cable Nintendo sells run it in RGB, or is it only YPbPr?

I've heard about people modifying that cable to make it RGB, but is this the only way of doing it? i.e. Nintendo added RGB support but don't officially endorse it?

And while I'm on that topic, the PS2's dashboard allows you to output either YPbPr or RGB. Does this apply to dvd movies only, or games as well? Can games run in YPbPr? Can you get Progressive Scan in RGB?

Oh another thing, RGB has no distinction between PAL and NTSC right? What about YPbPr? Does PAL/NTSC make a difference in that mode?

[gossi the dog]

You seem a little confused. Anyhow the NTSC GC supports component while the PAL one instead supports RGB. There's an official GC RGB cable that works automatically with all games and that shouldn't cost you more than ?20.

[lostn]

I am confused..

So the PAL GC does not support Component? Nintendo Australia (I'm from Australia) sells a thing called a Component Cable. Does this run in RGB? http://www.nintendo.com.au/gamecube/...ries/index.php

You can only buy it directly from Nintendo, here in Aust. No retailer sells them.

Will that run it in Component or RGB?

[Arctic Feather]

That component cable linked to, is the cable you get as standard with the Gamecube - it doesn't support RGB

You'll want an official Nintendo RGB cable, which looks like this:



PAL can use RGB fine using that cable (or a third party one), NTSC gamecubes will require a modifed RGB cable

[Lyris]

That component cable linked to, is the cable you get as standard with the Gamecube - it doesn't support RGB

The component cable on Nintendo Australia's site isn't the one that comes as standard with the Cube - that's an RCA/Phono/Composite cable. I'm assuming Nintendo Australia sell the Component cable instead of RGB ones because from what I heard, SCART isn't as widespread in Australia (can someone confirm?) and that it will work but obviously the PAL console does not support Progressive Scan.

[yashiro]

PAL Cube
● Officially supports 15Khz RGB via the official RGB Scart cable
● Does composite
● Does not do s-video
● Does interlaced component (via digital port with imported cable) (equivalent to RGB Scart)

NTSC Cube
● Does not officially support 15Khz RGB via Scart
● Does composite
● Does s-video
● Does interlaced and progressive component (via digital port)

Extra
● A custom RGB cable made from the NTSC D-Term cable produces a great RGB signal on both PAL and NTSC cubes.
● Some PAL cubes, with the use of freeloader, have been made to run some games in progressive scan.

[lostn]

That component cable linked to, is the cable you get as standard with the Gamecube - it doesn't support RGB

You'll want an official Nintendo RGB cable, which looks like this:



PAL can use RGB fine using that cable (or a third party one), NTSC gamecubes will require a modifed RGB cable

That cable linked to is the official cable from Nintendo Australia... we can't get any scart RGB cables here. It's kind of dumb how they don't sell RGB cables here. What does one of those modified cables look like?

The TVs you can buy here, are no different to the ones you can buy in the UK. They come with SCART or Component inputs.

Does Progressive scan *only* work on Component? Is there any discernable difference in picture between RGB and interlaced component?

[scarredbyvideogames]

I was as confused as you a few weeks ago lostn but thanks to some help here and on AV forums finally got it all sorted.

Depends entirely on what your tv is capable of.

Yes prog. scan will only work through component.
Im told that interlaced component (if your tv doesn't support prog scan) and rgb will give a picture of equal quality.This is what Ive heard - Im not sure though - cant help wondering if component would be better even without prog scan.If I were you Id go with the component if you have component inputs

So with a PAL cube and a non-prog scan tv you'l want a component cable (presuming your tv has the inputs).

'Course - if you do have a telly that supports Prog. scan thats a whole different (and more complicated) story......

Does this help even slightly?

Hope you get it all sorted soon anyway,good luck.

This Lik-sang link is just to show you not the cable (you can get it from Nintendo I know) but the user comments regarding the difference when using a component cable with a prog scan tv and compatible game - if you dont have component inputs but have an RGB scart get the official Nintendo RGB cable from somewhere it works great (to get RGB output with an NTSC cube you'd need a specially modified cable)

http://www.lik-sang.com/info.php?category=76&products_id=1468&

[charlesr]

I doubt most people would notice the difference between rgb via scart and interlaced component - think of them as the same thing, but different connectors. Compatible TV's only support progressive scan through component. Not had this verified but I heard a rumour that scart cannot supply the necessary bandwidth for prog scan (this could be bs though).

[fuzzybee]

That component cable linked to, is the cable you get as standard with the Gamecube - it doesn't support RGB

"No" it isn't the cable you get packaged with the GC, that would be a composite cable with yellow(video) and red & white(audio) phono/RCA connections.
The cable linked to "IS" the official Component cable which is video only and has red/green/blue seperate phono/RCA connections.
I have compared a pal GC connected via the official RGB cable and the official Component cable(interlaced), to my eyes the component cable is very very slightly sharper(on my 42inch display it is anyway)