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    #16
    Thanks for the advice Concept, it is much appreciated. Intresting how much your 3dmark03 score increased by with some overclocking, definatly the ATi's strongpoint. Cerainly I have considered keep the 9800 Pro, as it can run the likes of Doom 3 without any problems, but as soon as you crank the resolution up beyond 1024x768 it doesn't run as smooth, the same can be said about turining Vsync or AA on. I am on the hunt but reckon the X800 pro is what I want, but I will consider what you have said.

    Thanks,

    Waz

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      #17
      Also, what is standard 6800 like? Is it even on par with an X800 Pro. Noticed they are quite cheap.

      Waz

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        #18
        I decided on a standard 6800 for the interim whilst waiting for 512mb cards to arrive. Runs D3 pretty decently, I have blood, ragdoll & extreme quality mods installed now and I'm ruling the roost alot more. For the most part it's a solid 60fps and when it dips in the thick of it, it only dips down to a hardly distinguishable 40fps momentarily.

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          #19
          Is that with some sort of nVidia triplebuffer fiddle?

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            #20
            Huh what fiddle? are you thinking of the ATI microcode frame rate fiddle?

            The standard ?200 6800 probably gives the best performance per pound atm. Afterall it's physically an Ultra, it has 16 pipelines, just 4 are turned off and cheaper 700Mhz 2.2ns DDR1 instead of DDR3. Alot of people sporting mediocre systems should easiy achieve 3DMark03 benches of 8-12k which isn't to be sniffed at.

            Even on my rarely upgraded 2 year old PC I get 9196 without much effort:
            Last edited by fifty?ballz; 25-08-2004, 16:49.

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              #21
              Btw, on Rage3d a guy who works for Ati found a perfromance problem with the use of shadres on the radeon series of cards,

              hes posted a file that updates and it seems to provide a perfromance boost

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                #22
                Concept has been raving about that for days

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                  #23
                  Sorry,

                  Havent done it mystelf as i dont think its gonna improve my frame rates anyway

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by fifty?ballz
                    Huh what fiddle?
                    nVidia has no facility to do triplebuffering without a botch, iirc. As such, you're stuck with 30 or 60 fps, as opposed to 30, 40 and 60.

                    afaik.

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by oracle
                      Sorry,

                      Havent done it mystelf as i dont think its gonna improve my frame rates anyway
                      Hey, you don't have to do anything. If you check the top of the document out, all you have to do is rar the file to a specific Doom III directory, and bob's your uncle, welcome to a (probable) better frame rate. It worked really well for me anyway. The game seemed to look slightly better in terms of shading too.

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                        #26
                        Dabs.com has the Gigabyte X800XT PE for sale at 284 pounds (http://www.dabs.com/uk/channels/comp...quicklinx=37TF), which is cheap for that card. You will of course notice that they have 0 in stock, and you may well doubt that they will in fact be able to supply the card at that price, but you never know unless you try...

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                          #27
                          yeah but my system will equate to perhaps 2 fps

                          9800se (cant soft mod)
                          512mb pc2100 ddr ram
                          barton 2500+

                          cant be bothered

                          if i was i would overclock everything

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