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    PAL PS2 and IXOS RGB Scart Problem

    Hi,

    Can anybody please help!
    Connecting up my PAL PS2 and IXOS RGB Scart (XPP01) to my Sony 4:3 TV
    results in a squashed image in the middle of the screen with thick black borders at the top and bottom. My TV is only a year old.

    The PS2 is configured to "Full" screen and the scart socket on my TV is definately RGB. When I connect my XBox and GameCube with official RGB leads via the same TV scart socket the picture is fine.

    Speaking to the cable shop I bought the cable from they suggest fiddling the auto detect option on my TV for that scart socket.

    Anybody else had this problem?

    I'm tempted to return the cable and buy an official one.

    Any help much appreciated.......

    #2
    I'm having exactly the same problem, and it's really bugging me. Never played a PS2 with anything other than rgb (it came with the lead, no composite), so it would be nice to have a decent picture out of the thing. Tried fiddling with options on the PS2, but no clue what to do on the TV.

    EDIT: Fixed mine, with a bit of luck yours will be the same thing. For some reason, the TV switches itself to Widescreen mode when accepting RGB from the PS2. Go into your TV menu, look for a 'screen size' option, and that should sort it
    Looks like I have to do it manually every time though
    Last edited by Ashe; 09-09-2004, 10:17.

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      #3
      This is caused by incorrect voltage supplied to pin 8 on the SCART socket. It should have 5v supplied as this will switch your TV to AV mode, pin 16 (1.5v or so triggers RGB mode)

      If you're easy doing stuff like this cut/disconnect pin 8's connection.

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        #4
        Cheers Ashe.....I'm not sure if my TV has the option to override the "auto-detection". My TV is not widescreen but a new Sony flatscreen 21".

        I'll have a look tonight....if I can't fix it then the cable's going back and I'll have to endure composite.

        It's a real bloody shame because the picture is incredible.

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          #5
          Can anyone tell me the difference between "Full" and "16:9" in the dashboard? In that menu, 16:9 had borders, while Full removed them (without squashing the aspect ratio), but what does that mean in a game?

          Is "Full" using 4:3 or 16:9 ratio?

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            #6
            Games will ignore your settings in that menu, unfortunately. Its purely for telling the DVD Player functions what to do with widescreen DVDs; either show them properly (16:9, which you want), remove every 4th line and add the extra black bars to give the correct shape on a non-anamorphic-compatible TV (4:3), or chop the sides off on the few discs that carry the flags to do so (Full, or "chav mode").

            If its a Sony, your remote should probably have a little button with either a grid or "aspect" written by it, which on Sony's 4:3 TVs switches it in and out of anamorphic compression (on their 16:9 models it handles all 4 different zooms and squishes)

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              #7
              By the way, where did you get the IXOS cable from? I keep meaning to get a better RGB cable, as mine is cheapy rubbish.

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                #8
                http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tv...ml?id=5mnkC4FBnice price.....quick service too. Ordered on Wednesday, arrived Thursday

                Hope I can change the aspect on my TV now.

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                  #9
                  sorry..bad link...try this one instead....

                  http://www.tvcables.co.uk/cgi-bin/tvcables/XPP01.html

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                    #10
                    Thanks Mango - I'll keep that bookmarked for when my PS2 next gets a serious workout. My cheap cable shows a tiny bit of ghosting on it, just enough to annoy me.

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                      #11
                      Found the button on my remote last night to switch the screen to normal 4:3 output (rather than widescreen) and everything is now peachy. Cracking picture and sound from the IXOS cable..........roll on October 22nd.

                      Can now play Rez as intended........

                      Thanks for everyones help

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by mid
                        Games will ignore your settings in that menu, unfortunately. Its purely for telling the DVD Player functions what to do with widescreen DVDs; either show them properly (16:9, which you want), remove every 4th line and add the extra black bars to give the correct shape on a non-anamorphic-compatible TV (4:3), or chop the sides off on the few discs that carry the flags to do so (Full, or "chav mode").

                        If its a Sony, your remote should probably have a little button with either a grid or "aspect" written by it, which on Sony's 4:3 TVs switches it in and out of anamorphic compression (on their 16:9 models it handles all 4 different zooms and squishes)
                        So the PS2 dvd player was built specifically for widescreen TVs? I found that no matter which of the 3 options I picked on my 4:3 tv, the image would be stretched vertically.

                        If it removes every 4th line, are you losing graphic information? Can't they just squash it down vertically to make it look right, instead of removing lines?

                        When I play games via tv capture and Dscaler, there is an option for 16:9 anamorphic. Is that basically removing lines as well? That's bad then...

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                          #13
                          I think we're talking about 2 different menus here, the ps2 setup and the dvd setup. All the widescreen options in the ps2 setup make no difference in games or movies, it only affects the way the dashboard is shown.

                          To correct the vertical stretch in dvd movies, load a movie, STOP playback, and then access the dvd menu, go to the screen options and set the screen to 4:3 letterbox. If you don't stop playback, the option is there, but you can't change it.

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                            #14
                            If you do that to get letterboxes, will you lose every 4th line?

                            Is it only anamorphic DVDs that do the vertical stretch, or do letterboxed DVDs do it too?

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                              #15
                              When I play games via tv capture and Dscaler, there is an option for 16:9 anamorphic. Is that basically removing lines as well? That's bad then...
                              No - since this is a computer it is actually resampling the image in real-time so you get a nice smooth picture. I don't think that would be cost-effective for set-top DVD players, so the cheaper deleting lines to make the picture fit option is used there.

                              If it removes every 4th line, are you losing graphic information? Can't they just squash it down vertically to make it look right, instead of removing lines?
                              Removing every 4th line basically is squashing it down, only on the cheap.

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