New to PS2 ... newbie questions

[womblingfree]

afaik modding a ps2 does not make it dvd region free?

Matrix Infinity will make it region free. Modded PAL systems will play any game or DVD. NTSC ones will play anything bar PAL movies, PAL games are fine though.

[Londonner]

Because the software you linked is designed to copy ISOs to the HD, not originals, the same reason the same software was removed from the HD Loader thread.

Surely if you rip a purchased game to your PC HD, you'r creating an ISO? So the fact that the [deleted] app allows you to transfer ISOs but whether these are legally owned or not, are two separate issues. Just as we all know if you own a PS2 chip you can play illegal copies but whether people on this forum do or not is another issue. Yet, people are allowed to discuss PS2 mod chips on the forum.

I've never ripped a game to a PC hard drive or otherwse, so I don't know whether the output is only in ISO format or not.

Anyway, I suspect we could go around in circles on this topic ... so I'll just save that question for another forum.

Cheers

EDIT: I should also add that I have no idea whether the aformentioned app was designed for illegal purposes or not (just came across it today), just as I have no idea if mod chips were originally designed, beside allowing import playing, for illegal purposes or not

[MartyG]

The difference with HDLoader is it only allows you to copy across software from original discs of the same region as the machine. So there is a definite distinction.

We have to remove this stuff to protect ourselves so it'll continue to be removed as policy. It doesn't take much of an excuse to close web sites down, should any company be looking to do so. Importing is still not popular with the mass PAL producers, so why give them an edge in? Links to PS2 mod chips will also have to be removed now due to Sony's legal action.

There are plenty of other places where you can get this information, just not on NTSC-UK.

[Londonner]

Rhetorical question: I thought HDLoader/Advance also allowed you to copy across non-original discs (same region or not) as well if the PS2 is chipped?!

And I totally appreciate the potential of legal action against sites like this. However, I've never understood why given that such an understanding exists, there is a 'hypocritical' modding policy in effect on this forum: some topics are censored, whilst others (direct sale of flash copiers for the GBA, or links to illegal MP3 files, for example) are not.

To be fair, this thread isn't the place to have this debate so please close the topic as all my intial questions have been gratefully answered. I'll post a thread with my thoughts on the Suggestions board sometime in the future.

Cheers

The difference with HDLoader is it only allows you to copy across software from original discs of the same region as the machine. So there is a definite distinction.

We have to remove this stuff to protect ourselves so it'll continue to be removed as policy. It doesn't take much of an excuse to close web sites down, should any company be looking to do so. Importing is still not popular with the mass PAL producers, so why give them an edge in? Links to PS2 mod chips will also have to be removed now due to Sony's legal action.

There are plenty of other places where you can get this information, just not on NTSC-UK.

[MartyG]

Things that are clearly legally problematic are removed, those that are grey area are not - it's impossible to have a black and white policy. For review and preview purposes we get invites. Should we allow talk that is beyond the grey, these previews, review code and invites will disappear as soon as you can say, that appeared on a warez site.

If you want to raise this for discussion then do so in the comments forum - but the only thing it will achieve is the total banning of any discussion of mod chips/mp3s etc.

And we certainly do not allow linking to MP3s - if there are any such links then let me or the other mods know and they will be removed.

[darkangel]

M8, don't bother with the stand it ****s up the the ps2 disk drive, and is one of the very main reasons why most people moan about their ps2 ****ing up all the time.

[roobarb]

With ref to running NTSC games on an unmodded PAL machine with HDLoader: http://forums.psxforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=23457

Is the guy in this thread talking out of his arse or is it really true?

If you really can run NTSC off the HDD then I'm ordering my US copy of katamari damacy right away, not to mention Gradius V etc etc..!

[superkully]

If he has Component Progressive Scan, isn't that a better option than the RGB Cable? I don't own a PS2, am I missing something... did they bungle up the component output or something?

Doh! Didn't know he wanted progressive scan... disregard my stupidity.

[Meng De]

Sorry to hijack this thread a little, but I thought most, if not all ps2 modding places (london console for example) have closed down due to sony's court order. Have I missed something?

[MartyG - Sorry, but as this is now illegal, we can no longer allow such requests anymore than we can for Warez]

[will2003]

Sorry to hijack this thread a little, but I thought most, if not all ps2 modding places (london console for example) have closed down due to sony's court order. Have I missed something?

Yeah, it's a real pity - but fair play to them. Seems Sony tolerated it to an extent, but things like the HD Loader make it all too easy, and although the vast majority of responsible gamers such as the users of this site abhor piracy and buy a LOT of original game software, import or otherwise, some people will always abuse a freebie if they can.

I would be very interested to see how Sony would react to the appearance of a mod chip that only allowed original imports to work, not backups. Would be good to gauge wether they are equally concerned about the bootleggers or the importers, but I really can't see the harm in playing titles ahead of their PAL release dates. Nintendo obviously can though, remembering how they took Computer Exchange to court for selling imoprt Nintendo hardware and software

[Meng De]

Thanks for clearing that up will, even if it wasn't quite the news I wanted to hear

I agree about the import only chip, as it would seem that the only route would be a Nintendo-stlye cease and desist on importers. Which would be interesting as most of the favoured retailers (at least around here anyway) are based in the US, making it hard to stop them.

I imagine that all eyes are now on the new "PStwo" and the swap-disc posibilities that a flip-top machine brings.