How can I check if my graphics chip is "Direct X Level 7 compatible"

[Montaver]

Intel extreme graphics arent really the best gaming platforms dude, dont think HL2 will be quite the same experience with minimum details and reduced physics

[VR46]

My Acer Laptop (1.4 Pentium M, 512MB Ram ? 266Mhz DDR, Intel Extreme Graphics; Intel(R) 82852/82855 GM/GME 16MB allocated, on Win XP SP2, Direct 9) scored 1865 3D Marks in 3D Marks 2001.

Run it a few times and my 2.6ghz, 256mb ram and Intel graphics, XP SP2, Direct X9 gives a best of 938, ouch

PS. Can't get Doom 3 demo to run NOT in fullscreen now.

result files:

[MD]

My NEC Versa laptop Athlon XP 1800, 256MB RAM, S3 Twister (wtf?) graphics gave me a remarkable result of

RESULTS
3DMark Score 540
Game 1 - Car Chase - Low Detail 7.8 fps
Game 1 - Car Chase - High Detail 2.5 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - Low Detail 11.6 fps
Game 2 - Dragothic - High Detail 3.0 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - Low Detail 18.7 fps
Game 3 - Lobby - High Detail 2.5 fps
Game 4 - Nature Not supported by hardware
Fill Rate (Single-Texturing) 55.9 MTexels/s
Fill Rate (Multi-Texturing) 95.3 MTexels/s
High Polygon Count (1 Light) 0.8 MTriangles/s
High Polygon Count (8 Lights) 0.7 MTriangles/s
Environment Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
DOT3 Bump Mapping Not supported by hardware
Vertex Shader 3.9 fps
Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Advanced Pixel Shader Not supported by hardware
Point Sprites 0.3 MSprites/s

(and that was at 640x480 in 32bit colour as it didn't want to know at anything higher...). Amazing stuff...

[Digfox]

Run it a few times and my 2.6ghz, 256mb ram and Intel graphics, XP SP2, Direct X9 gives a best of 938, ouch

PS. Can't get Doom 3 demo to run NOT in fullscreen now.

result files:

That score surprised me although I can only guess:

1. The Mobile Pentium has a 1MB cache (edit: this version anyway, newer ones, Dothan, have double that) which is double the amount on the normal P4 (I believe, but I may be wrong on the P4 figure and am happy to be corrected)
2. The 256MB's of Ram limited the result on your machine.

Although based on what I've seen and as mentioned before, I don't hold much hope of getting these games to run 'adequately' on this gfx chipset. The lack of Hardware T & L seems to be the killer.

Good luck if you keep at it though.

[VR46]

best result I got was 1239ish when going down to 800x600 and 16 bit textures etc, still miles behind .....

Given up on Doom 3, it did run OK all lowest settings and 640x480 resolution, would have been better if not fullscreen but couldn't get the fullscreen option to work in the settings. Never mind, HL2 will have to wait until the Xbrick release.

[VR46]

run on this PC

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...cname=c00211786

got score of 1,573 on default settings (1024x768 etc) about 60% higher than my lappy with same processor and memory.

Hoping even a cheapish AGP card will bump that upto around 10,000

[Digfox]

With a 9700/9800 ATI class card your 3D Mark score will definately get better.

OC'ers quote a score of 5000 for the 9700np/Pro in 3D Mark 2003. I assume your HP PC has an Intel P4 (northwood/prescott core - 478 socket) of somewhere inbetween 2.4 - 3.4Mhz? The link on the other thread didn't state the CPU speed.

[VR46]

Mgear it's a 2800 processor.

Also, can anyone tell me the command to run the Frame Rate Benchmark in the Doom 3 demo please.

[VR46]

didn't want to start new topic, what does
"Expansion slots (AGP/PCI) 1 AGP, 3PCI, 1 PCI Expansion" mean ?

is "1 PCI Expansion" just a typo ? it's not PCI express is it ? don't know what PCI-E slot looks like and can only see 3 PCI & 1 AGP slot on pic of motherboard on linky below.

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?dlc=en&lc=en&product=436507&lang=en&cc=us&docname=c00211786

thanks.

[Digfox]

I don't know in all honesty, although I know that particular chipset doesn't include/support PCI Express (no motherboard currently supports both AGP or PCI Express ports, you have to upgrade the GFX Card and Motherboard in one go for this). I did find this guide on spotting the different type of PCI card slots, of which yours has three standard 5V ones:

http://www.swyx.com/support/ssdb.html?kbid=kb2471

Only thing I can think of is that if this so called 'PCI Expansion' is used, it consumes all the available bandwidth(?)...although I'm guessing. Anyone else?

Btw which Graphics card have you bought in the end?

[VR46]

not bought a new card yet (car failed MOT so money tight til end of month tbh) stuck in a friends "spare" PCI PNY MX420 will post the 3D Mark2001 figures tonight for a laugh

Mgear; You'll have to PM me your email addy (if you want !), I've run a few tests - with and without card and game benchmarks and put them into Excel.

[Digfox]

Pm'ed mate.

Off topic - but I do plan to buy a new Gaming PC again so have been spending lots of time on the sites like, toms, ok'ers, anandtech etc etc. When I do get it, I looking forward to what my 3D Mark 01/03/05 scores might be becuase although this laptop been's alright on the move I need to play DOD again...

[VR46]

know exactly what you mean, 20 mins of Quake 3 the other night and PC FPS bug bit me, as much as I love my lappy (you can't beat watching 24 in lunch hour at work) I will get another desktop PC one day soon.

[oracle]

just a new desktop replacement type laptop, you can get x800 series gpus in laptops now

[Digfox]

ATI's best portable option is the Mobility Radeon 9800 GPU and Nvidia have just realeased the Geforce Go 6800 GPU. But both GPU's perform around the mid-range level (x700 & 6600 Series) rather than matching tho top end cards.

http://www6.tomshardware.com/mobile/20041108/geforce_6800-16.html#3d_mark_2005

These both play games well, but I want a desktop again. I can build a Athlon 64 + 1GB + 6800/x800 class card all on a 17" TFT, cheaper than the best laptops. Also it's all upgradable as well. Personal preferance of course, but once I'm settled again soon I'm off to spend some money.