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    Case/CPU temperatures

    I was wondering whether anybody knew what the ideal case/cpu temperatures would be. My comp is a athlon 64 3500+, 1GB RAM and 256MB GPU. Ive got a ABIT mobo with the guru facility. It currently says my System temp is 43C and my CPU is 58C. Is this normal? if it isnt, how do i reduce the tmep without having to fit extra stuff in?

    #2
    Very briefly, those sound fine to me. Other people will run a lot lower, but then they will also be running a ) louder or b ) more expensive.
    Last edited by Super Stu; 24-12-2004, 00:06. Reason: editted to make sense, damn the Gin

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      #3
      Folk?

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        #4
        Aye, other people. Folk.

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          #5
          58 is a tad high though? it should be running at no more (ideally) than about 50C under load.

          Although if its 58 under full load, i wouldnt worry tbh

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            #6
            Temperature readings from the motherboard's bios aren't always reliable, so it may not be that high anyway.

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              #7
              I don't pay any attention to those monitoring tools. Both SANDRA and Aida32 tell me my CPU core voltage is 2.7v which is way beyond dangerous, and therefore almost certainly untrue.

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                #8
                I've got the same CPU and I've read that it should be about 30* when idle and 50* at most under load... Feck I even have the same mobo as you!

                The thing is... I'm still waiting on parts so I haven't booted mine yet but I spent a long time looking for pitfalls and info on http://forums.amd.com

                One thing I noticed people say about the temp monitors on mobos is that sometimes they're calibrated wrong...

                If you shut the system down and let it cool, then boot it up and go into the BIOS. HAve a look at the temps it reads then. If they're waaaay off then there's your prob.

                Apparently flashing the mobo BIOS can help with said issue.

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                  #9
                  As other people have said the on board monitoring on motherboards is rarely perfect!


                  My machine reports a CPU temp of around 27 idle, and my motherboard is running at around 66! - that diode or whatever it is that reports that is clearly broken though as even when I turn my computer on from being off over night it still reports a temp of 66!

                  The external probe I have in my machine monitoring the case (in no particular area) reports a temp of around 35 which I would say is much more realistic!

                  (BTW I have a P4 3.4gig Northwood and an Asus P4C800-E Deluxe Mobo)

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                    #10
                    That's a fair point. I recall being a bit edgey with my barton, as I have her clocked a bit. I thought it would be prudent to keep MBM running on the systray, so I could keep an eye on temps for a few days. Imagine my horror when I saw it leap up in chunks of 5 or 10 degrees when I was caining the cpu by.... moving the mouse. In the end it all starting beeping and churning and told me to turn it off and back away from the keyboard slowly.

                    Hang on, I thought.

                    Installed the gubbins which actually came with the motherboard, turns out she was barely idling and running like a fridge :P

                    I wouldn't pay it too much mind if I were you. The bios will have a paddy before eggs fry, and you can have a reasonable guess at the ambient case temp by keeping an eye on what comes out the exhaust fan (not necessarily the PSU fan of course, as that'll have additional heating from the PSU).

                    Just a bit of common sense really.

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                      #11
                      The guru tells me that the idle cpu temp is 59C while caining doom3 gives me a temp of 61C. The system temp stays around 45C.
                      hmm, i thought it couldnt be right. I cant seem to find the temp in bios though? where do i look? it only seems to tell me fan speeds and voltage?
                      I suppose the good thing is that my system hasnt crashed or shown any signs of instability.

                      Lastly the 'cool n quiet' setting on the athlon 64 was set to disabled as default. Is this thing just a gimmick or should i enable it? it tends to push up the temp on playing doom3 when enabled?

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                        #12
                        A difference of only 2 degrees between idle and load? Sounds like those temps are being reported wrongly to me. The 'cool n quiet' feature (if I remember this correctly) adjusts the cpu fan speed AND the cpu clock speed depending on system load. So with this feature enabled the cpu's clock speed is lowered when the system isn't doing much (idle), and the fan speed reduced accordingly - the idea being to reduce system noise and save power.

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                          #13
                          Hmm, sounds like a hardware version of these cpu idle programs, one of which I use and drops unloaded core temp by quite a few degrees.

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                            #14
                            Yeah, but still requires a software driver for it to work. Just had a look on AMD's website, this page pretty much explains it.

                            http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...E10272,00.html

                            The software driver should have been included on your motherboard driver cd, so you probably have it installed already. It's just a matter of whether you want to use that feature or not.

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                              #15
                              Those temps are a little high for comfort, anything over 60 could be a problem longterm.
                              Check you're heatsink is seated correctly, with enough thermal paste. Also make sure you're case has good airflow.
                              You're PC will be fine at those temps, just be warned.

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