NTSC cube and PAL tv.

[nintendo_gamer]

Hello.

Is it possible to make an PAL tv display a picture in color when hooking up an NTSC gamecube? Unfortunately, I have a PAL tv now and I when I turne don my gamecube, it only showed the picture in black and white. Is there something I can do/get to make it run in color?

[Mayhem]

Get a new TV.

Apart from that, get a modded RGB cable. Saurian sadly has stopped doing them, but you can find them from a few other people on the net, and occasionally eBay. Will set you back about ?40 but it's worth it.

[nintendo_gamer]

I see..... why a modded one though, and not a regular one?

Also, I heard that the RGB will only work if my tv is 60hz, correct? How can I tell if it is 50 or 60? I heard that if it runs the cube in black and white, then it's definitely 60. I checked the manual and the only thing it said anything about the tv being 50 or 60hz is: main voltage: 220v-240v~, 50Hz

I guess I'm really screwed then eh? By the way, I only got this tv in dec. 2003 (brand new).

[charlesr]

If your picture is coming out in B&W then it's a 60hz signal, otherwise you would not see any picture. Mains voltage has nothing to do with TV picture, so ignore that bit.
What does it say in the specs in the manual for display output types (e.g. composite, svideo, RGB)? If it says you can do RGB, then you will be fine if you have a modded cable. The NTSC cube does not output RGB, so the mod takes the component signal from the digital output and converts it to RGB. It looks ace.

[Mephistopheles]

If a modded RGB cable sets you back too much, you could always get an S-Video cable for around 10 quid which should work. Obviously the picture will not be as sharp as RGB, but it won't be that far off.

[nintendo_gamer]

If your picture is coming out in B&W then it's a 60hz signal, otherwise you would not see any picture. Mains voltage has nothing to do with TV picture, so ignore that bit.
What does it say in the specs in the manual for display output types (e.g. composite, svideo, RGB)? If it says you can do RGB, then you will be fine if you have a modded cable. The NTSC cube does not output RGB, so the mod takes the component signal from the digital output and converts it to RGB. It looks ace.

There's a lot of specs all over the damn place, but it says something about the scart at the back having an RGB.

[nintendo_gamer]

If a modded RGB cable sets you back too much, you could always get an S-Video cable for around 10 quid which should work. Obviously the picture will not be as sharp as RGB, but it won't be that far off.

As long as there isn't a vast difference and I don't feel like I'm playing something way inferior, then I don't mind. Where can I pick up this s-video cable? *prays it's a store*.

[Mephistopheles]

As long as there isn't a vast difference and I don't feel like I'm playing something way inferior, then I don't mind. Where can I pick up this s-video cable? *prays it's a store*.

Wouldn't say it's a vast difference personally.

Dixons, GAME etc should have it. You may have to hunt around a few branches though, as GCN cables aren't nearly as abundant as the PS2 and XBOX stuff.

[nintendo_gamer]

Wouldn't say it's a vast difference personally.

Dixons, GAME etc should have it. You may have to hunt around a few branches though, as GCN cables aren't nearly as abundant as the PS2 and XBOX stuff.

Ok, so let me get this straight....

I need a gamecube-specific s-video cable, right? And how does it connect? Does it connect instead of the "analog out" cable? And where does it go in (to the tv)?

And it there isn't a PAL or NTSC specific cable, right? Whatever I buy, it will work between my PAL tv and american gamecube, yeah?

[Mephistopheles]

Ok, so let me get this straight....

I need a gamecube-specific s-video cable, right? And how does it connect? Does it connect instead of the "analog out" cable? And where does it go in (to the tv)?

And it there isn't a PAL or NTSC specific cable, right? Whatever I buy, it will work between my PAL tv and american gamecube, yeah?

Yup, it'll be GCN specific. It will connect instead of the analog out and will go into the composite inputs of your TV (ie. the same inputs the crappy cable which comes with the console goes into), except there will be one extra input adjacent to the yellow input called S-Video.

There is no specific cable, any will work. It's all region free (as with most peripherals).

[nintendo_gamer]

Yup, it'll be GCN specific. It will connect instead of the analog out and will go into the composite inputs of your TV (ie. the same inputs the crappy cable which comes with the console goes into), except there will be one extra input adjacent to the yellow input called S-Video.

There is no specific cable, any will work. It's all region free (as with most peripherals).

Uh-oh. I don't have the extra input adjacent to the yellow input called the S-video. I only have the yellow output and white output.

[charlesr]

Nope, Mephistopheles is misleading you. If your TV can't display composite in NTSC (ie. you get B&W piccy), then Svideo is going to give you the same problem.
If your scart says it does rgb, then that's your only real option. If you have more than 1 scart plug, note which one(s) does rgb.

[nintendo_gamer]

Under specs it says: 1 full RGB SCART on the rear.

Is it possible to purchase a cube scart cable? I found this, is this what I need to be looking for:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...159889870&rd=1

[Mephistopheles]

Nope, Mephistopheles is misleading you. If your TV can't display composite in NTSC (ie. you get B&W piccy), then Svideo is going to give you the same problem.
If your scart says it does rgb, then that's your only real option. If you have more than 1 scart plug, note which one(s) does rgb.

I'm not misleading him at all. I'm talking from experience. If he's getting black and white through composite and his TV is 60Hz, he will get colour from S-Video. This is fact. I'm sure an Internet search will confirm what I'm saying, or you could test it for yourself.

Back to the original poster, you should have yellow, followed by white followed by red inputs from left to right on your TV, for S-Video you would need an additional input before the yellow. If that's not there, you're out of luck. Maybe an S-Video to scart cable will work, although I haven't tried this myself and can't confirm. The standard scart cable you have linked to will not work, because NTSC cubes will not output the correct signal, which is why you need a modded scart which you can order off the web.

[Mayhem]

I'm not misleading him at all. I'm talking from experience. If he's getting black and white through composite and his TV is 60Hz, he will get colour from S-Video. This is fact. I'm sure an Internet search will confirm what I'm saying, or you could test it for yourself.

Sadly you're talking rubbish mate. Been down the path of trying S-video on a number of S-video compatible TVs in the past that gave b&w through composite and they came up b&w still. The only way to get colour from an NTSC Cube on a TV that doesn't support NTSC colour frequency is via a modded RGB cable. Frankly I'm amazed and disappointed that a TV so recent can't do NTSC colour!

What you'll be needing is something like this:

http://www.consoleplus.co.uk/product_info.php?name=RGB%20Modified%20Cable%20for%20NTSC%20Gamecube&products_id=399&language=en