NTSC cube and PAL tv.

[nintendo_gamer]

I'm not misleading him at all. I'm talking from experience. If he's getting black and white through composite and his TV is 60Hz, he will get colour from S-Video. This is fact. I'm sure an Internet search will confirm what I'm saying, or you could test it for yourself.

Back to the original poster, you should have yellow, followed by white followed by red inputs from left to right on your TV, for S-Video you would need an additional input before the yellow. If that's not there, you're out of luck. Maybe an S-Video to scart cable will work, although I haven't tried this myself and can't confirm. The standard scart cable you have linked to will not work, because NTSC cubes will not output the correct signal, which is why you need a modded scart which you can order off the web.

Yeah, the S-Video one (and ironically the red one, even though there is audio when the gamecube is on) are both missing.

[nintendo_gamer]

Sadly you're talking rubbish mate. Been down the path of trying S-video on a number of S-video compatible TVs in the past that gave b&w through composite and they came up b&w still. The only way to get colour from an NTSC Cube on a TV that doesn't support NTSC colour frequency is via a modded RGB cable. Frankly I'm amazed and disappointed that a TV so recent can't do NTSC colour!

What you'll be needing is something like this:

http://www.consoleplus.co.uk/product...99&language=en

Dang.... well, if that is my only option, and unless I find a cheap modded RGB cable (or unless I steal one ), then I'm afraid I'll just wait till I get a new tv, because I might end up giving the current tv to my sister.

[gIzzE]

S-video has a colour carrier just like composite.

[Mephistopheles]

Sadly you're talking rubbish mate. Been down the path of trying S-video on a number of S-video compatible TVs in the past that gave b&w through composite and they came up b&w still.

Interesting, because on my TV I was getting black and white through composite and PAL RGB scart but when I used S-Video I got colour. I wonder why this could be the case...

[nintendo_gamer]

S-video has a colour carrier just like composite.

I don't understand. What's the point of having an s-video cable then if it's the same thing (only with an extra lead) as composite?

[dj898]

less interference I believe.
Instead of mixing all down single wire by separating into two you have less chance of interference when it's processed at the Tv end. Component has three wires and VGA/RGBVH are carried in five wires...

well that's what I understand in nutshell...

[charlesr]

Interesting, because on my TV I was getting black and white through composite and PAL RGB scart but when I used S-Video I got colour. I wonder why this could be the case...

Your TV is seemingly weird and supports NTSC on certain inputs and not others. I've heard of this before, but it's extremely rare. Rest assured that the NTSC gamecube only outputs a 60hz NTSC signal on composite and svideo, and it's extremely unlikely that any TV that can't do NTSC on composite will cope with NTSC on svideo. However, RGB is neither NTSC or PAL - it is it's own thing and any console outputting RGB will work on any TV that does RGB. It's also the best quality picture available through a scart cable and should be used at all opportunities.

[charlesr]

svideo splits the picture into 2 different parts to avoid interference and then joins them back up again at the TV. It's much better than composite, but not as good as rgb which splits the picture into red green and blue. Please just buy a modded RGB cable from someone (put a wanted ad in the wanted forum?) and move on. I couldn't recommend anything else.

[nintendo_gamer]

svideo splits the picture into 2 different parts to avoid interference and then joins them back up again at the TV. It's much better than composite, but not as good as rgb which splits the picture into red green and blue. Please just buy a modded RGB cable from someone (put a wanted ad in the wanted forum?) and move on. I couldn't recommend anything else.

Ok, two questions...

1) Does a modded RGB cable produce a picture quality that is equivalent or worse when comparing one that is produced by a component cable on an HDTV. I mean, they are using the same digital outlet.

2) What's the best cable to use for an n64? I'm guessing that there's something better than composite, correct?

[Mayhem]

Interesting, because on my TV I was getting black and white through composite and PAL RGB scart but when I used S-Video I got colour. I wonder why this could be the case...

Most likely either what Charles said, or the socket was set to only accept S-video at that time...

You see, on my TV I have 3 AV ports; 2 Scart and 1 at the front for the separate S-video/red, yellow, white leads. The second Scart port and the one at the front accept both composite and S-video input. HOWEVER... I need to press a button on my remote to switch either AV channel between accepting either composite or S-video.

In other words, if it is currently set to accept composite and I feed an S-video picture signal to it, I get black and white. Likewise the other way around. I found out this the hard way when I first got my NTSC Cube way back in December 2001. Plugged it into the S-video AV2 and got a black&white picture. Couldn't for the life of me understand what was going on.

Until I pressed the AV2 button again and it switched over to accepting S-video and I got a colour pic. It had been set to accept composite only. Note here, it isn't listed as a separate channel unlike many other TVs. My TV works by having a button to take you to the AV channels, with the first one you get being the last one you were on. Then there are separate buttons to choose AV1, 2 or 3. No cycling through them.

Yeah it's a bit weird, but easier to use as you can directly go to the channel you want. However the ability to switch AV2 and AV3 between S-video and composite like that WAS NOT in the bloody user guide!!!

Still it's just as well it did screw up. Having this problem is what led me to these forums all that time ago and I've been here ever since

Right then... to answer your two Qs Nintendo Gamer...

1) It's the best you can get in Europe. I'd say it was just under component quality but almost impossible to tell the difference. The advantage as we can show by being in Europe and having RGB is that we can play NTSC source material without a problem; most Americans will never be able to watch anything PAL over there.

2) Depends if you mean a PAL or an NTSC N64. PAL N64s are limited to S-video at most, they are unmodifiable to accept RGB. The early NTSC N64s can be modded to output RGB but the later ones cannot.

[dj898]

The component cable support 480p as well with selected titles.
Yes 480p does make difference as long as you have EDTV/HDTV with the component input that supports prog-scan.

RGB is interlaced only but like said it's pure form of signal that will result the closest to what the game designer had in mind when creating the game. Most of arcade machine runs on RGB by the way... Apparently it's far easier to get TV with RGB support in Europe - especially in UK - than the rest of the world and that's why the component/YUV is popular nowadays...

cheers

[Mephistopheles]

Thanks for the information guys. I will be checking my TV manual shortly.